r/CombatFootage Apr 01 '23

compilation footage of Russian air force dropping parachute bombs on Hama governorate, Syria. Video

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u/CargoTwoHundred Apr 01 '23 All-Seeing Upvote

I bet they thought they were going to roll in and bully around Ukraine like they did Syria.

Nuh uh Fucko...

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u/alecsgz Apr 01 '23

They really chose the wrong country to invade

  1. Ukraine is big.

  2. Many Ukrainians speak Russian. So if they intercept a call they know what the Russians are speaking all the time. Imagine a Syrian intercepting a Russian call then requesting a translator to find out the guy was asking his wife on what type dishwasher to steal.

  3. They know the Russian tactics and Russian weapons. Hence they know the actual quality and what exactly the weapons are good and bad at

  4. They can easily operate the Russian tech they get their hands on. And if not they have the manual on hand which again are in Russian so see point 2

And these are on top of the Russian screw ups that is a list on their own. On top of the list being their belief Ukrainians will greet them as liberators™ or how their logistics were planned with the idea of reaching Kiev in 2 weeks...

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

Surely the biggest factor is no air superiority. We'd be seeing strikes like these in ukraine if it wasnt for IADS.

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u/TaiSnep Apr 01 '23

Manpads and advanced anti air systems have made it nearly impossible to establish air superiority.

I actually think Russia could probably establish air control, but with huge, huge losses. Which would leave them exposed for a decade or two.

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u/IAmASimulation Apr 01 '23

If Russia could establish air superiority, they already would have, regardless of the cost.

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

Really? Because if they did establish air control, they would just win this entire war. I don't think there's much question about that.

At the moment, right now, russia has lost half of its entire tank fleet. How exposed do you think that leaves them?

The reality is, their SEAD game just isn't strong enough. They don't have a strong enough air force to do it.

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u/alecsgz Apr 01 '23

I don't think they could even if their SEAD game was top notch

Lets say they destroy every significant AA Ukraine has.

  1. They would lose a lot of jets in the process

  2. Ukraine will receive new AA hardware and Russia would be almost back to square one but now with a decimated fleet

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u/Snoo-3715 Apr 01 '23

Plus the West have been incredibly relucent to give them planes, but if all the AA went down and it was the next last resort I believe the planes would be going to Ukraine at that point. So Russia's decimated fleet would then have to go up against Western planes.

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u/randomw0rdz Apr 01 '23

"Sell" them planes/artillery/rockets, etc, otherwise western countries wouldn't care. And they'll sell them just enough to keep the conflict going, but not end it too quickly. No world wide arms dealer (the US) wants to get rid of a huge market. There's still money to be made under the guise of helping to liberate a country.

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u/pperiesandsolos Apr 02 '23

Odd way for the US to make money, giving away billions in aid to Ukraine.

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u/TaiSnep Apr 01 '23

I'm not so sure about that, I think they could have done it initially, but the risk assessments came in and there was a chance they'd lose way, way too much.

Don't forget if they get too weak, then that same paranoia that led them to invade Ukraine is also telling them that they'd be vulnerable to attack.

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

Bro they've literally lost like 75?% of their professional army and like 45% of their ground material. They arn't saving anything in reserve. If they thought there was a good chance they could do it, they would. Which leads me to believe that the most likely option is that they just can't.

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u/TaiSnep Apr 01 '23

According to Western sources, yes. But there's a mid ground.

Do you have a range of figures?

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

That's a floor figure, losses that are visually confirmed. https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

Thats 2000 tanks with selfies of the turret popping off.

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u/DidNoSuchThing Apr 01 '23

He downvoted you and left lmao

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u/R3Volt4 Apr 01 '23

Nato could establish air superiority in a few hours. Russia doesn't have enough planes.

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u/Snoo-3715 Apr 01 '23

That plus the anti tank missiles, between anti air and and anti tank the Russian military has been devastated this past year.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

The biggest factor us america donating billions of dollars worth of military equipment.

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

I'm pretty sure it was 8 months in before any sort of air defense was donated, and no american patriot systems have hit the ground yet. There wouldnt be air sorties regardless of investment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

The reason why Ukraine hadn't fallen to Russia is because of the United States' donations.

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u/TriXandApple Apr 01 '23

Sure. My point is that the US hasn't donated anything unique, that couldn't be carried by other people(other than possibly artillery shells). The UNIQUE thing is the air defense.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

I don't debate that.

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u/StaleBiscuit13 Apr 01 '23

Syria was also full of untrained rebels who would walk in the middle of roads grouped together at night because they thought no one could see them. After the war in 2014, the Ukrainians saw the writing on the wall - next time Putin will be back, and he won't be fucking around.

And so every country that is enemies with Russia basically sent over their best special forces to train the Ukrainian army - USA, Britain, Germany, etc.

So now you have a population (famed for their resilience as far back as the Mongol Invasion) that has spent years receiving the best training in the world, speaks the language of the invaders, and is receiving tons of worldwide aid in the form of troops, money, weapons, and supplies.

Russia is having a very, very bad time.

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u/Open-Passion4998 Apr 01 '23

I'm looking forward to the big turning point that will come when russian equipment runs down to a point of no return while ukraine really begins receiving delivery of western ifvs and tanks. Russia is going to be outmatched bad especially if ukraine concentrates its new vehicles and capabilities in one smallish area to make a breakthrough

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u/StaleBiscuit13 Apr 01 '23

Spot on my guy. Those Abrams are a force multiplier and in combination with drones, artillery, and ground troops, assaults will have a totally new element the Russians will have to deal with. Instead of a few armored humvees with a Ma Deuce on top and AT4's, you're gonna have a directional armor tank with a main gun strong enough to knock out a fortified building and machine guns that will penetrate everything up to and including steel cover.

Just a nightmare scenario. My big concern is that Russia, who will get incredibly desperate, will start using ICBMs and a scorched earth policy. That's when shit will get really dicey

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u/Angelworks42 Apr 01 '23

There's a really good chance none of those weapons work - and I do mean none.

Things like neutron initiators, and the metal that forms the fissile material (the pit) have super short shelf lives. The weapon requires super exact geometry (which won't happen if the core is corroded and warped) and split second timing (which won't happen if your initiators half life is expired).

USA spends roughly 10 million per missile per year replacing materials and maintaining these warheads.

I did a tour of the worlds first nuclear power plant (ebr-1) and one thing that struck me as interesting was (in the tour guides words) how difficult it was for the scientists to get the reactor to go critical - and it was precisely because of timing and material geometry and quality of the fuel.

It would be super simple for someone in Russia who is in charge of maintaining their nukes to pocket the money (10 million per missile) and say you contracted the work - especially as we all know none of these weapons are going to be used anyhow.

One of the reasons their aircraft carrier is in such sad shape is because contractors pocketed so much money - and that was on a project that was going to be used and everyone was keeping an eye on.

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u/AgeWeird2231 Apr 02 '23

Veeerry interesting, thank you for writing that out. I knew that Russian officials were pocketing funds, but that’s wild

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u/Angelworks42 Apr 02 '23

Well to be clear I don't know if they are pocketing money intended for their nuclear weapons maintenance, but they have pocketed money for every single other project they work on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F0kSDV9U_E - says that 1/10th of their budget (that they know about) was going to yachts.

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u/ghotiwithjam Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

Very optimistically I hope US knows which ICBMs are working and which are not and have paid off the ones who control them or something.

But I have been very aware for a year or so that there is a possibility that a nuke or two will be fired in my lifetime before Russia gets utterly trashed.

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u/nflxtothemoon Apr 01 '23

Forgot to add the most important thing which is the backing of the west with weapons and intelligence.

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u/juxtoppose Apr 01 '23

“Greet them as liberators” I’ve heard that before somewhere, can’t quite put my finger on it...cough cou-Afganistan-gh.

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u/user_8804 Apr 01 '23

Y'all realize Russia is on the side of the Syrian government and aren't actually invading the country right?

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u/alecsgz Apr 01 '23

The point was that they looked at their success in Syria and thought to themselves we got this

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u/Nigel-Nathan Apr 01 '23

And they would've succeeded if there wasn't any outside interference.

NATO intelligence, training, equipment, sanctions on Russia, European Union economic support, Starlink and more are keeping Ukraine alive.

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u/LystAP Apr 01 '23

You have to give credit to the Ukrainians.

Iraq and Afghanistan had a lot of support, but ISIS almost creamed Iraq without Iran's militias stepping in, and we know what happened in Afghanistan with the Taliban. All the support in the world doesn't matter if they don't fight.

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u/alecsgz Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

They based their attack on the belief the Ukrainians will greet them with open arms ffs

And the first month was all Ukraine. What they did they did with their own weapons. Javelins given by NATO countries didn't help Ukraine repel Russia for gods sake

This is pure Russian stupidity NATO had nothing to do with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCwRVfVV3c

You forget even Western "analysts" were predicting Kiev to fall in a few days. Heck even USA were preparing Ukraine for a insurgency war hence the javelins and stingers

The west started to give the good stuff (as in M777) after May one month after Russia lost the Battle of Kyiv

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u/Nigel-Nathan Apr 01 '23

Russia destroyed Ukrainian military communications in the beginning of the conflict, Starlink was super important. The United States was sharing intelligence with Ukraine before the war even begun. NATO started training the Ukrainian army after the initial invasion of crimea in 2014. Ukraine can't replenish equipment losses without outside support.

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u/alecsgz Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

No I am sorry

You are taking things that happened in the first months believing all happened at the start of the war.

Starlink gave the first terminals in April 2022. Battle of Kyiv ended at the end of March

The United States was sharing intelligence with Ukraine before the war even begun.

It was limited

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/biden-administration-walks-fine-line-intelligence-sharing-ukraine-rcna18542

And again the significant help was after Battle of Kyiv

https://www.ejiltalk.org/the-united-states-and-allies-sharing-intelligence-with-ukraine/

NATO started training the Ukrainian army after the initial invasion of crimea in 2014

https://www.rand.org/blog/2022/01/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-a-silver-bullet.html

Also in case of an insurgency

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/14/us/politics/russia-ukraine-biden-military.html

Ukraine can't replenish equipment losses without outside support.

Of course. But everything before Battle of Kyiv was 90% Ukraine

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u/stormpooper88 Apr 01 '23

Russia doesn't act in Ukraine as it did in Syria. They are afraid that the sanctions would be too heavy. They are not targeting without being careful about civilians.

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u/ghotiwithjam Apr 01 '23

After Bucha and the bombing of Mariupol drama theater I plainly refuse every suggestions that Russia is careful about civilians.

Yes. Maybe they were even worse in Syria. But don't fall for their rhetoric that they somehow care about Ukrainians.

They categorically do not.

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u/marsap888 Apr 01 '23

What sanction you considered to be too heavy? Is there any sanctions is not imposed yet?

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u/stemcellguy Apr 01 '23

All these are total BS. The only critical factor was that the West decided to aid Ukraine no matter what and they don't give a damn about an Arab country.

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u/Worldly-Ad534 Apr 01 '23

That’s their modus operandi…roll in the tanks.

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u/ComprehensiveDoggo Apr 01 '23

Well, they had such an opportunity in Mariupol. And even having that, it took russians 3 month to complete the occupation of the ruins of what was a prosperous Ukrainian city.

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u/informativebitching Apr 01 '23

Syria was no less than 3 countries at that point

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u/smokeywokeypokey Apr 01 '23

Russia didn’t bully Syria. They came in to help Syria clear ISIS out. And did a pretty good job of it.

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u/Downunderphilosopher Apr 01 '23

Russia- "Can't be any ISIS if there's no humans left in the country"

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u/Basuliic Apr 02 '23

Tell that to Syrians who sere near Aleppo.

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u/many_kittens Apr 01 '23

World's indifference to these 'precision' bombings and 2014 invasion are what led to this point.

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u/hiim379 Apr 01 '23

They probably used a good chunk of their small supply in Syria

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u/BimboJeales Apr 01 '23

What you just watched was just some bombing of only one village. BUT they barely even do it in Ukraine because Ukraine has actual air defense.

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u/PrisonSlides Apr 02 '23

That was literally my first thought when watching the first two dropping down with parachutes

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u/innocentbystander95 Apr 02 '23

We were also bombing Syria

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u/lovesnoty Apr 02 '23

The coalition was using precision strikes against what had been identified as ISIS targets.

And when civilians were hit the coalition admitted there had been collateral damage.

The Russians and the Syrian regime used dumb weapons, like barrel bombs, parachute bombs and even chemical weapons to indiscriminately turn whole towns into rubble.

Edit: Not to mention their "double tap" tactics! Bombing a crowded place like a market or a hospital, waiting for the first responders to arrive and start looking for survivers and then dropping more bombs on the same spot.

And the Russians never ever admit any wrongdoing. If a couple of families died under the rubble, they were terrorists.

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u/Speckwolf Apr 01 '23

Good old Russian precision targeting.

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u/TemperatureIll8770 Apr 01 '23

They hit the ground, no?

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u/Speckwolf Apr 01 '23

Yeah, plus, they can target individual cities (if they are not too small and not too close to another city, in that case…

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u/jolychiwa Apr 01 '23

Also keine Präzision. Hauptsache großflächig gebombt um die Inkompetenz zu verschleiern

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u/SecurelyObscure Apr 01 '23

Tf is up with the German?

So no precision. The main thing was to bomb a large area to cover up the incompetence

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u/Speckwolf Apr 01 '23

Exakt. Wie im 2. Weltkrieg halt.

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u/EnvironmentalCup8038 Apr 01 '23

Nur 80 Jahre Später. "Bombenterror" im 21. Jahrhundert. Aber auch nicht gegen Staaten wie Nazi Deutschland. Sondern gegen eine Zerstörte Stadt die seit Jahren unter Bürgerkrieg leidet.

In Syrien haben die Russen Ziele wie Krankenhäuser in 2 wellen angegriffen. Mit einer stunde zwischen den Angriffen. Mit dem Ziel Rettungskräfte, Überlebende und Angehörige zu töten.

Hoffen wir mal das sie diese Kapazität auf lange zeit verloren haben

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u/SecurelyObscure Apr 01 '23

Only 80 years later. "Bomb terror" in the 21st century. But also not against states like Nazi Germany. But against a destroyed city that has been suffering from civil war for years.

In Syria, the Russians attacked targets like hospitals in 2 waves. With an hour between attacks. Aiming to kill rescuers, survivors and loved ones.

Let's hope that they have lost this capacity for a long time

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u/cysun Apr 01 '23

Wahnsinn wie viel Leid und Tod Russland in den letzten hundert Jahren in der ganzen Welt veranlasst hat. Und dann schreien alle Idioten Kriegsverbrechen wenn eine Drohne die Soldaten, die einen Verwundeten auf einer Bahre auf dem Schlachtfeld tragen, bombt. Es ist ja vielleicht ein Kriegsverbrechen, was weiß ich, aber bitte, das ist doch lächerlich und nicht erwähnenswert im Vergleich zu was Russland in den Kriegsgebieten treibt...

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u/Uh_Duh_Mass Apr 01 '23

This is what all the Z patriots thought would happen in Ukraine.

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u/inevitablelizard Apr 01 '23

Not just the Z-tards. I think a lot of the expectations in the west of a Russian victory were based on the assumption of Russia getting air superiority and being able to do regular air strikes in Ukrainian held territory. Which would have disrupted Ukraine's ability to move units around on their own territory and organise resistance.

When that failed, it became a regular ground war and Russians got bogged down. It's a big part of why it's become such an artillery dominated war - when your air power can't be used effectively, artillery is all you have left to pound enemy positions with.

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u/ConsequencePlayful48 Apr 01 '23

Ukraine shows what’s happens when the ground force got good anti tank and anti air weapons.

As a pilot I would know like to fly in a enemy area with lots of soldiers with manpads. Manpads are with many more, they are cheaper and invincible for planes at the first place

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u/zhaneq14 Apr 01 '23

What is the reason for parachuting the bombs instead of just dropping it?

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u/dacorny82 Apr 01 '23

One reason is for low alltitude drops, so the jet gets out of harms way

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u/Nachtzug79 Apr 01 '23

Ah, Tsar Bomba had a parachute, too.

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u/Floripa95 Apr 02 '23

and the bomber barely escaped even with this precaution

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u/YellowMathematician Apr 01 '23

Reasonable. Russia didn't have low-cost guided ammunition and their computerized bomb sight SVP-24 is too inaccurate for targets in a densely-populated area. Thus, they must rely on low-altitude drops.

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u/DeltaDuckster Apr 01 '23

Hi drag configuration, it buys time for the aircraft to get away sufficiently between release and detonation, thus not damaging itself from its own ordnance.

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u/RyukRonuken Apr 01 '23

I believe it also causes a larger shrapnel blast radius.

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u/aSimpleUkrainian Apr 01 '23

how many civilians did they kill there?

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u/ElTardoDente Apr 01 '23

The country infamous for killing all the hostages and calling them terrorists will probably never tell us how many civilians died unfortunately.

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u/SRSLYIDKWTFIMDOIN Apr 01 '23

I think Russia’s anti-terrorism doctrine is “Kill all hostages so the terrorists have no leverage”

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u/CKF Apr 01 '23

This, but unironically.

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u/bencomilan Apr 01 '23

You cannot be more right with this statement! Check Dubrovka theater hostage crises and school in Beslan. Both ended with bloodbath.

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u/GraDoN Apr 01 '23

That isn't necessarily a bad approach, the problem is they cannot seem execute a hostage situation to save their lives... which is a bad saying because they don't seem to care either way.

The school hostage situation and the opera house one were both mired with incompetence. If they were halfway useful they could have killed the hostage takers with relatively minimal civilian losses.

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u/twinkletoesthe5 Apr 02 '23

Judging by their "counter terroism" in their own country. I believe you're right. They killed more hostages than the Chechen terrorists.

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u/queequeg12345 Apr 01 '23

The UN used to share locations of things like hospitals and schools with nations at war so they could avoid them when bombing cities. They had to stop sharing with Russia because they began to intentionally target them.

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u/EnvironmentalCup8038 Apr 01 '23

And they attacked such targets in 2 waves. The second attack to kill helpers, survivors and relatives

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u/ConsequencePlayful48 Apr 01 '23

Probably they don’t do research before, so they highly likely didn’t know them selfs

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u/Salami__Tsunami Apr 01 '23

I legit don’t know if you’re talking about Syria or Russia.

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u/Damnfiddles Apr 01 '23

Fuze: "This is the way"

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u/nflxtothemoon Apr 01 '23

Most likely in the tens of thousands with hundreds of thousands in refugees

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u/aSimpleUkrainian Apr 01 '23

there are millions of refugees and that was one of the putin’s goals - to flood Europe with refugees

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u/reddittallintallin Apr 01 '23

Probably less than in Iraq.

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u/PetesTheCat Apr 01 '23

Most people in iraq were killed by iraqis, not Coalition bombing.

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u/PetesTheCat Apr 01 '23

Your feelings are showing, might want to roll down your sleeves to hide them, anyways 200k civilians were killed in Iraq. Are you under the impression that the Coalition ran a systematic bombing campaign of Iraqi civilians, or do you not understand the difference between civilians killed by the US on accident and civilians killed as a result of the Coalition’s invasion and subsequent destabilization of the region?

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u/Dukkellson Apr 01 '23

“It doesn’t matter that I murdered a few people because some else murdered more people” love this whataboutism logic every time

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u/reddittallintallin Apr 01 '23

Why focus on my family violence problem when I can pour criticism in others violence. That is not whataboutisn is hypocrisy or blindness.

You can see a mote in another's eye but cannot see a beam in your own.

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u/Even-Willow Apr 01 '23

Stay tuned to this guy’s account for even more outrageous shit takes.

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u/inevitablelizard Apr 01 '23

I could be wrong but I think I can hear someone saying Lataminah in some of the clips, which was one of the rebel held towns in northern Hama governorate at the time.

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u/Reallarsa Apr 01 '23

That’s correct, the text in pink also says the revolution in Lataminah

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u/steelbeamsdankmemes Apr 01 '23

I am glad they don't have air superiority in Ukraine.

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u/stormpooper88 Apr 01 '23

They don't need air superiority to pull this off. They can destroy cities with other methods. They are afraid of the sanctions.

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u/Character_Ad_7798 Apr 01 '23

Funny you never see this on the news!

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u/Jeffy29 Apr 01 '23

Most surgical Russian strike.

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u/snippythehorses Apr 01 '23

Russia is reaping what they sowed back here

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u/TheFlyingRedFox Apr 01 '23

Barring modern politics and current conflicts it's always epic to watch high levellers in secured airspace dropping ordinances in any conflict as like here with these Sukhoi Su-24 & Tupolev Tu-22 or other past conflicts with Boeing B-52, McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 or Rockwell B-1.

Drawbacks are the footage from the ground is often devastating and makes sense for the hatred of those on the ground.

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u/muud12 Apr 01 '23

These are some impressive explosions.

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u/KamenAkuma Apr 01 '23

Civilians? Never heard of 'em

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u/Alaric_Balthi Apr 01 '23

At 00:10 there is a bomb dropping. As it closes to the earth, there is detonation from a previous bomb explosion (most likely) and it seems to detonate the second one still in the air. Tried watching frame-by-frame but it seems like the there is something flying of the ground to the second one.

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u/OgwasHere Apr 01 '23

At least in Syria the ruskis look strong 😂

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u/vespularufa Apr 01 '23

Didnt they still lose a T14 to rebels there 💀💀

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u/vespularufa Apr 01 '23

All those lads in Yemen? Yea saudi fellas over there are mega incompetent plus they dont have their uranium armour tho rpgs can't penetrate normally crew bails after damaging tracks or such

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

Does anyone remember the "evil americans bombed Syria for years", here you see them flying Su-57...

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u/CatwithTheD Apr 01 '23

I'm not sure if there is any Su-57 in this clip...

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

I was too tired to check it twice... but there were some ligtly used in Syria, as well as one seen in the initial Kharkiv bombing, no maneuvers, just a straightline flight and releasing bombs during early night.

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u/toorkeeyman Apr 01 '23

There was one or two confirmed Su-57 strikes (and unless memory fails me there were satellite images of them in hmeimin AB) but after those couple of strikes there weren't more confirmed with visual imagery. Chances are Russia was just doing some test runs for it in Syria. They have been pretty open about testing a buncha new shit in Syria.

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

Chances are Russia was just doing some test runs for it in Syria.

of course, Su-57 is not a production model.

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u/ayevrother Apr 01 '23

Didn’t the Americans also cause a lot of suffering in Syria though? Obviously Russia had horrendous conduct but it’s a bit disingenuous to pretend America has done nothing wrong in Syria.

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u/Aggressive_Phone_139 Apr 01 '23

America didn’t use chemical weapons in Syria…

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

Syria where? Syria WHERE? For most people, Syria is Damaskus, Homs, Aleppo, the west towns by the sea, where the placards of Vlad and Bashar were placed. The west where Iran forces operated and still operate, the west where the Lebanese oddballs still rule. Heck, there is a russian naval base, of course the US wasn't operating there with the air force! That is where the majority of the inhabitants lived.

It is sad that nobody cared back then what was going on, and judging by the comments, doesn't care still.

BTW, do you know any place where there would be access to the 15000 people tortured to death by the official syrian government photographer? He escaped... together with the photos they asked for. I wanted to run some statistics on it.

The americans caused a lot of suffering to Wagner in Syria, didn't they? But then, it is a border with Iraq, in a land you can't really tell whose it is, the borders are only on the maps, it is a desert in the far east.

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u/ayevrother Apr 01 '23

I can’t really understand the point you’re making but yes the US focuses mainly on the eastern part with the border with Iraq where the oil they protect and take is, but they’ve funded groups that operate all through out Syria especially in the early days I thought this was common knowledge? In my opinion Wagner and the US army are as evil as each other and anyone who disagrees is denying hard facts.

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

I can’t really understand the point you’re making

Russian involvement with intentional targeting of civillians, schools, teachers, hospitals, rescue workers, international aid workers and reporters is not only well known, but widely documented, people talking about it were also targeted later for assasination.

US specialized on actual targeting of military equipment.

US funded actual syrian citizens, you say? IS that equally as bad as the Iran walking in to kill people inside of Syria? Or lebanese just walking in and commanding and killing Syrians... what was even their reason? Or the militants from Lybia and Egypt just coming in to terrorize and kill Syrians... And you are saying that US helping syrians of all people... is "unmeasurable suffering" or something?

You still don't see it for what it is? There are the actual people who are at home there, and there is 10+ other groups.

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u/ayevrother Apr 01 '23

Are you seriously asking if the US funding militant jihadist groups in a sovereign nation is Bad? Dude everyone is evil just because russia is doesn’t meant that the US is funding only Syrian freedom fighters for peace lol did you also believe in operation “Iraqi freedom?” Also since you mentioned Egypt I am from Egypt and our Jihadi terrorism issue is basically the oldest one in the region and spawned everything from Al Qaeda to To the Muslim brotherhood, and yet the government of the US supported the Muslim brotherhood when their member was president and supplied them with aid, as well as supporting the military dictatorship that took over after and sweeping their crimes against humanity under the rug. Since you seem so concerned with the lives of middle easterners why the double standards why is no one funding freedom fighters in Egypt?

Have you ever even been to Egypt or Syria and are you even Arab or Syrian? You speak like someone who gets their facts from websites I’m talking about things I’ve heard from my relatives and friends like people investigating attacks sites in Syria against civilians only to find American produced and provided TOW missiles and other equipment nearby and everyone in Syria knows it.

I fucking hate Russia but everyone knows their evil here, whilst America is slimy n pretends to care about us, pull another one buddy I stopped believing in that shit when I was 7 and was shot at with bullets that said “MADE IN U.S.A”.

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 02 '23

militant jihadist groups

Those come from Lebanon, Iran, Egypt, Syria, Chechniya, etc. Why would US fund them when they are chasing them all along? Do you ever think?

OK, now you say that US government working with the true and elected official government is bad and they should be working on overthrowing them instead, because they are in Egypt? How does your argumentation have any consistency?

I’m talking about things I’ve heard from my relatives and friends like people investigating attacks sites in Syria against civilians only to find American produced and provided TOW missiles and other equipment nearby and everyone in Syria knows it.

Umm, you really do not know the history of TOW missiles in the region, don't you? How much equipment did USA leave to the Taliban? Are you going to say they are the true Taliban founders as well?

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 02 '23

And regarding your hate to the USA: you blame USA for their companies selling stuff to your legitimately elected government which they used to attack you?

Isn't the problem here that the many governments that have been ruling over you were not worth a broken pence?

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u/IAmASimulation Apr 01 '23

They were also bombing the FSA.

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u/smokeywokeypokey Apr 01 '23

Unless the food standards agency were working for Isis sided rebels

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23

LOL, the bombings maps show russians firmly, almost without exception, bombing syrians, in the most WEST, and ON CAMERA, while the US did the stupid job of bombing ISIS in the far east.

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u/Harith_iQ Apr 01 '23

And they ask me why are you standing with Ukraine..

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u/No_Letterhead_4788 Apr 01 '23

Dumb air force dropping dumb bombs.

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u/Crypto-Arab Apr 01 '23

Russia army is only good at killing civilians. The war in Ukraine has proven this.

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

You do realize that syria was almost completely conquered by isis right? Those civilians were saved by russia wiping isis out. The air raids were done long after evactuations were completed. The US bombed their government and civilians long before russia helped syria

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u/RolfSonOfAShepard420 Apr 01 '23

Weird how they slowly and gracefully drop in to ruin your day

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u/Jaichim_9 Apr 01 '23

Many of these pilots have now been KIA in Ukraine, sometimes the justice of God can be swift

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u/Garuda-Star Apr 01 '23

Are russian parachute bombs thermobaric?

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u/intrikat Apr 01 '23

There are such variants, yes.

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u/Commercial-Image4710 Apr 02 '23

Russia just loves blowing things up! I can only hope they get what's coming to them soon!

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u/Dry_Patience872 Apr 02 '23

As much as I am sad about what happened to syrian people and the little to no help the got, I am happy that Ukraine stood to these idiots and destroyed these antiquated weapons and soldiers.

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

What are you talking about? Syria begged for help and was fighting isis long before the US. The US answered their call for help by bombing their military instead of isis. So they asked russia for help and russia drove isis out of syria in less than a month. Now syria is allies with russia and hates the US

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Big ass bombs , anyone know how many KG is it ?

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u/oivey7070 Apr 01 '23

I’m sure there were only combatants in those coties

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u/Hurtbig Apr 01 '23

Say what you will about Russia. They may be embarrassing in a modern conflict, but they sure are good at turning towns into rubble.

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u/Realistic-Praline-70 Apr 01 '23

Bombs are crazy scary

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u/OneCauliflower5243 Apr 01 '23

Honestly this is why I’m here. You don’t see this footage anywhere on the news. You might hear about “strikes in Syria” buried in some passing news report, but no one is going to show you devastating reality.

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u/BreakDance4cash Apr 02 '23

Can anyone fill me in on the back story of why Russia was bombing Syria pls and also what year ty

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u/Reallarsa Apr 02 '23

This is probably between 2013-2018 and the reason is because Syrian government is an ally to Russia and thus they were called for air raids and mercenaries

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u/OldCracks Apr 01 '23

Why don’t they use these in Ukraine ? Just curious

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u/UnluckySeries312 Apr 01 '23

Nobody has air superiority over the skies of Ukraine. There are a lot of MANPADS and SAM systems making it extremely hazardous flying for both sides.

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u/Speckwolf Apr 01 '23

Russian air force does not cross the line of contact and hasn’t done so for months. It’s exclusively attacks on the front line and with stand-off-weapons.

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u/Jane_the_analyst Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

They did. The service life for Su-57 was over and it needed new bearings from either Germany or Sweden, the Su-24 base in Crimea was hit, and a lot of what you see was repeated all over Ukraine. Even the FAB bombs who let immense craters at the beginning.

But then, Ukraine is a country, and has air defense and allies. Plus, it has russians to issue commands over walkie-talkies, so that when the Su-24 went for a bomb run, ukraine pilot knew precisely where and when to find the Su-24.

The Tu-22 or what was the name was lobbing cruise missiles at cities too. And other bombs. But had to resort to long distance only. And even then, their air bases suffered damage to support infrastructure and planes as of now and the lack of maintenance and investments in recent years...

and: you may have seen the huge munitions kabooms all over everywhere.

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u/TheFlyingRedFox Apr 01 '23

Well they have used high levellers a few times in that conflict when they had control of some airspace but not nowadays with how heavily contested the airspace is resulting in the use of standoff missile carriers and low level attack runs by attack aircraft.

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u/Thin_Impression8199 Apr 01 '23

they used them at the beginning of the war in my city, they were launched from multiple launch rocket systems, but in the end half of them did not even work. and the second was able to neutralize. they used them for about a week and then stopped.

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u/Dubstepvillage Apr 01 '23

I’m about 90% positive I have seen footage of these in Ukraine

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u/AndyC_88 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

I'd imagine the only place these could have been used was in Mariupol in the last stages of the siege, but there's absolutely no chance Russian pilots have been trying these anywhere else.

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u/No-Chart4945 Apr 01 '23

Maybe they did on su24s

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u/the__6 Apr 01 '23

parachute in the wind precision target aquired action report no collateral damage

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u/diamonddog35 Apr 01 '23

Does anyone know why a parachute is used for some bombs?

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

Slower decent = more accuracy

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u/Kylian123 Apr 01 '23

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u/Araminal Apr 01 '23

When you want to remove all of the collateral, so you can't be accused of damaging it.

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u/Pilotom_7 Apr 01 '23

Why use a parachute?

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u/TheSaltyPeasant Apr 02 '23

Pretty sure Russia hasn’t changed its approach to war since WW2

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u/Epinnoia Apr 02 '23

I am guessing those are likely cluster bombs, and fired from rocket launcher like MLRS. The parachute is there to slow the thing down to give the cluster bomblets proper orientation and time to 'find' heat signatures.

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

This isnt a scifi movie. No MLRS munition uses chutes and are not heat seeking. These are not cluster bombs either.

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u/Epinnoia Apr 02 '23

"A photograph has appeared on social media in which a rocket can be seen descending to the ground by parachute after its launch. The picture appears to be taken moments before the impact.

Judging by the length and diameter of the projectile it looks like a 300 mm rocket fired from a Multiple Rocket Launch System (MRLS) such as BM-30 Smerch or a more advanced Tornado-S system.""According to Ukraine’s premier defense magazine, Defense Express, parachutes are used in cluster munitions to ‘scatter’ individual submunitions. The use of parachutes also stabilizes these submunitions and makes sure that they descend vertically with their nose down.“Some of them, such as the 9M55K1 rocket for the 300-mm Tornado multiple rocket launcher, do use parachutes,” the magazine noted."

https://eurasiantimes.com/russias-rocket-dangling-in-the-air-in-ukraines-kharkiv/

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u/Robertladou Apr 02 '23

Why parachutes on these bombs

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

To make them more accurate by slowing them down. High speed dummy bombs are very inaccurate compared to ones with chutes

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u/imamarealhippo Apr 01 '23

Those look effective

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u/ArmyIntelligence Apr 01 '23

and indiscriminate

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u/cheetah_chrome Apr 01 '23

They do, but they try that in Ukraine and they’ll get fucked up quick like

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u/Benitelta Apr 01 '23

They were likely going to try but they found out quickly that the ground in Ukraine shoots back.

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u/Bingchillingw Apr 01 '23

Like in Vietnam

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u/sykokiller11 Apr 01 '23

Not sure why they have parachutes, but I agree they are effective. Do the parachutes just add a fear factor like the sirens on a Stuka or is there another reason?

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u/maqbeq Apr 01 '23

I guess, those are unguided bombs and the parachute helps keeping a more vertical straight down diving

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u/Primary-Examination2 Apr 01 '23

Slowing it down and increasing drag makes it more likely to deviate off target, the parachute is there to allow low altitude drops

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u/XenonJFt Apr 01 '23

Parachutes makes it that if you bomb low they instantly brake the hozontal speed and land it close to where you dropped it. Or it has a chance a normal dumb bomb will skip on houses or pavement and go to friendlies or civillian shelters

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u/Timmymagic1 Apr 01 '23

Thats not the main reason.

The main reason is so that the bomb does not detonate whilst the aircraft that has dropped it at low level is still in the blast area....

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u/XenonJFt Apr 01 '23

The normal ones normally have delayed fuzes to fix that problem

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u/blueskydragonFX Apr 01 '23

Everytime the Moscovians start crying on what the Eest did to Syria just show them this footage as I believe none of the West use parachute bombs.

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u/ayevrother Apr 01 '23

Yeah they didn’t instead they just funded rebel groups without doing basic research to realize they were extremists and they turned on the west and became jihadis many of them, people keep tryna pick sides lol every empire is evil once they decide to intervene in a sovereign country and Syrians hate the west and Russia equally from my experience.

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u/smokeywokeypokey Apr 01 '23

Now they’re falling on Ukraine

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u/innocentbystander95 Apr 02 '23

American drones were far more effective at taking out civilians than those old bombs

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u/IneoMors Apr 02 '23

Lawful non-combatants

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u/TheWhiteDrake94 Apr 01 '23

Why do these bombs have parachutes? Seems really slow or am I just slow

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u/Reallarsa Apr 01 '23

They’re slow, they’re meant to be used for low altitude bombing raids

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u/TheWhiteDrake94 Apr 01 '23

Ty for clarification

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u/KieferKarpfen Apr 01 '23

Of course you would know it. Do you think the us does not get filmed?

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u/Reallarsa Apr 01 '23

This is Russian Air Force, bombing Syria is an official thing that they signed with Bashar Al Asad

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u/rapaxus Apr 01 '23

The parachute are there so that they can be dropped from a low altitude (to hide from enemy radar) while still taking a bit to impact and explode so as to not damage the aircraft dropping it.

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u/3yearstraveling Apr 01 '23

Russia is literally in Syria to keep ISIS from taking over. The US attempted to use ISIS to help overthrow Assad. All these hurr durr Russia bad comments are ignorant.

There was no fucking gas attack. If there was, what mental gymnastics do you need to do to convince yourself the best way to help Syrian citizens is for the US to kill them and seize their resources!?

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u/nflxtothemoon Apr 01 '23

You need to get your head checked because you got everything wrong.

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u/Sugoi_Sukhoi47 Apr 02 '23

Actually, even mainstream western media agreed with his comment...dont argue about something you have zero knowledge of

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