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Brian Burke “extremely disappointed” in James Reimer’s decision to not participate in Pride Night [Image]
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u/Sarcastic__ Sparta Sarpsborg - ES 13d ago
I will always respect Brian Burke for how hard he's championed this cause from his own personal life experience with his son.
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u/salamiolivesonions VAN - NHL 13d ago
it's honestly so great that he is an ally. An "old Time hockey guy" like this is great to have supporting
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u/LeroyJanky80 VAN - NHL 13d ago
He couldn't have explained this simple act of decency any clearer or better. People need to get over their own shit and demonstrate their tolerance. It isn't always about you.
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u/Bahamas_is_relevant VGK - NHL 13d ago
Seriously, having one of the “old boys club” be this much of a champion for LGBTQ rights is huge for the game.
Say what you want about his GM ability, but Burke seems like a genuinely good human and that’s what counts.
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u/freewaterfallIII 13d ago
This speaks volumes about grubauer. Someone should tell Reimer, "this isn't about you, it's about them."
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u/Revival93 COL - NHL 13d ago edited 13d ago
Technically, 99.99% of the league don’t become insufferable divas when it comes to this stuff, but nonetheless, go GRUU.
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u/freewaterfallIII 13d ago edited 13d ago
Very true. But I heard about a story of Jay beagle on the canucks was like this too. Wouldn't wear pride jerery.
Edit: jersey. What's a 'jerery'? Lol 😆
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u/B0_SSMAN TOR - NHL 13d ago edited 13d ago
I love how outspoken Burke has always been about supporting the LGBTQ+ community
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u/CanadaRu 13d ago
His son was gay. Brian was supportive of his son when he was alive, I'm sure it pains Brian to see James take that stance even more so now with his son no longer with us and James being a former Leaf as well.
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u/doihavetowearabra DAL - NHL 13d ago
So much respect for Burke. It is great that he is so vocal in support of the community. I wish we had more like him.
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u/TheDesktopNinja BOS - NHL 13d ago
I wasn't really familiar with him but I just spent a few minutes looking up the details. He's a stand up guy.
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Burke cuts right through the bullshit and gets to the very heart of the point.
Saying, “I’m for inclusion and I love and welcome all” but refusing to wear the jersey is 100% a direct contradiction. It is a direct statement, without ambiguity, that you do neither love nor welcome all.
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u/Parmesanchzgorl 13d ago
Unfortunately I have found that a sad amount of Christians spew contradictory statements. Being a religious person but judging the lives of others to me is inherently contradictory but hey that’s just me
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u/dumbfoundry SJS - NHL 13d ago
Just a crazy thing to see. Here I am thinking Reims is one if the nicest dudes in the league in one minute and being confused as fuck in the next.
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u/YvesSaintWarrant TOR - NHL 13d ago
The disappointment I felt when I saw this earlier cut like a knife.
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u/purpleseagull12 CGY - NHL 13d ago
Also, Jesus loved everybody. If you think Jesus himself wouldn’t wear these pride jerseys if he were alive today, you are fucking kidding yourself.
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u/SpacemanSpiff25 DAL - NHL 13d ago
Actually he was very likely a real person. There’s a fair bit of historical evidence that says that Jesus of Nazareth was an actual dude who lived around the appropriate time period. Son of God? That’s a little harder to prove.
But the point remains. Put aside whether you believe in Christianity or not. It’s pretty hypocritical to say you do but won’t support X or Y people, when the single biggest Christian teaching of the guy you profess to follow was “love thy neighbor.”
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u/cdcformatc COL - NHL 13d ago
ignoring the actual man Jesus who may or may not have existed and just speaking about Jesus as a character from the Christian Bible, it's crazy making to hear people using His name to promote hate and ignorance
it's like they haven't even read the Bible
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u/ANAL_CRUSHER EDM - NHL 13d ago
Exactly. Being of a different religion or being an athiest is a sin to Christian values, but you're taught not to hate or exclude those different from you. Reimer probably doesn't care if he has or had teammates being athiest or believe in a different religion like Kadri in Toronto. It's promotion that hockey is for everyone and hockey is also for LGBTQ athletes. It's also for professional athletes like Luke Prokop and promoting openness to any closeted players.
If it's really about Christian values donate a huge portion of your salary to the poor and suffering Reimer.
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u/LeroyJanky80 VAN - NHL 13d ago
Religion, teaching intolerance and exclusion and judgement for millennia. Way to go.
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u/psyopsono CAR - NHL 13d ago
I like the Penguins now???
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u/AnOwlFlying 13d ago
Burke has always been behind the LGBTQ+ community since his son came out as gay
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u/NefCanuck TOR - NHL 13d ago
I was hoping that Brian Burke would comment here.
The fact that there are NHL players so terrified of wearing a Pride Jersey because of their “religious beliefs” is utterly disappointing.
It’s not like any of them can actually point to anything in their religious teachings that actually says “you shall not like LGBTQ+” people 🤷♂️
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u/satelliteridesastar DAL - NHL 13d ago
No see James thinks all people have value and worth and he thinks LGBTQIA+ people should be welcome in all aspects of the game of hockey, he just doesn't want to wear a shirt that says that because reasons.
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u/nameistakentryagain SJS - NHL 13d ago
This is why it’s so maddening. It takes MORE EFFORT to be a twat about pride night then just keeping your mouth shut and wearing the jersey for a 5 minute warm up. there are a nonzero amount homophobic players in the league, more than just Reimer & Provorov, but I can count on 1 hand the amount of them who publicly stated they won’t participate in pride night for their own reasons.
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u/BaephBush BOS - NHL 13d ago
This is worse though, because all Reimer had to do was one warmup right? As a kid, dressing up for church is for many a weekly occurrence.
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u/DtheS 13d ago
Thank you. I don't think it matters what religion they subscribed to, if you ask a player the question, "Do you think your homosexual and/or queer fans should watch hockey games?" the answer should be a unanimous yes.
It's not an endorsement, it is just letting all the fans know that their sexuality isn't a barrier to enjoying hockey. If it is the case that you can't even acknowledge that it is fine for gay fans to come watch hockey, then your values are fundamentally flawed.
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u/PepperidgeFarmMembas 13d ago
I knew Brendan. Amazing guy, was destined for great things, taken from us way too soon. Funeral was basically a who’s who of NHL royalty. Wish more guys like Brian would speak out.
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u/7Stringplayer SJS - NHL 13d ago
Just start Kaapo the rest of the season. Scratch this clown
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u/rwhockey29 DAL - NHL 13d ago
That helps yall more than hurts you tho
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u/7Stringplayer SJS - NHL 13d ago
Kaapo has been pretty damn rough this year. It's a push at best
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u/Softestpoop 13d ago
In that case, it helps your chances of getting Bedard, which is more helping than hurting
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u/deletedtheoldaccount VAN - NHL 13d ago
I wish reporters would ask Reimer to point out where Christ condemned the gays… or mentioned them. Since Christ was his excuse.
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u/Problematique_ PIT - NHL 13d ago
I don't always agree with him when it comes to hockey, but as a human Brian Burke is a class act.
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u/nepats523 SJS - NHL 13d ago
Let. Burke. Cook.
Frankly James play this year implies otherwise, cause he doesn't discriminate on everybody scoring on his. 895 ass
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u/ZRR28 TOR - NHL 13d ago
I just don’t know how you can hold beliefs because of a book that’s been translated multiple times paraphrasing what old men thought back in the desert over 2000 years ago.
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u/BaephBush BOS - NHL 13d ago
There are so many reasons the Bible (and which version are we supposed to adhere to anyway, James?) shouldn’t be trusted. I’m going to leave the theology aside and just say that the original KJV was commissioned by King James in part deliberately to make kings look better. In other words, he ordered the content altered.
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u/dchowchow TOR - NHL 13d ago
In my completely uneducated opinion religions helped unite people and provide a moral compass for us to develop into the society we have today. The caveat being that religious differences are cause for some our greatest wars and most terrible bloodshed events.
Today, I feel like religion plays a much smaller role in many of our day to day lives. I once had a roommate who could not believe I am a Atheist. I don’t feel like I need a book to guide me in knowing right from wrong. I think my moral compass is … well, capable of guiding me. If I need a book to tell me what’s right from wrong and I’m only following it because I fear eternal damnation or is it genuinely guiding me to be a better person?
If you’re religious? Cool. If you’re like me? Cool.
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u/Spider-Fan77 TOR - NHL 13d ago
Based Burkie
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u/graffeaty CGY - NHL 13d ago
That’s not what based means lol
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u/PrailinesNDick TOR - NHL 13d ago
Acidic Burkie
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u/graffeaty CGY - NHL 13d ago
I love Burke and all he stands for, but stating a popular & agreeable opinion, is by no means considered ‘based’ lol
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u/DaltonFitz TOR - NHL 13d ago edited 13d ago
Brian Burke is 100% correct and James Reimer is a complete piece of shit. I am glad this guy isn't associated with Toronto anymore, and I am glad I don't have to act like a borderline 1B goalie is anything special again. The nice guy act goes away really quick when you can't be bothered to put a Rainbow on your shirt to show that people are welcome to a game where the main objective is to put a piece of rubber across a line with sticks.
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u/SalamanderOk6944 13d ago
He is 100% right.
If the players can't support a diverse audience, then hockey isn't for everyone.
Maybe we should choose the audience over the players.
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u/Bathtime_Toaster 13d ago
Do some research on why he has this opinion on this topic and you would probably can the sarcasm.
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u/dchowchow TOR - NHL 13d ago
It’s very personal for Burkie and he was and remains a strong advocate in this space.
Burke is a genuinely good guy.
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u/SpacemanSpiff25 DAL - NHL 13d ago
Who care why he is? Maybe he was a hateful homophobe right up until his son came out. Maybe he wasn’t.
The important thing is that people can change and he’s pushing to help that change.
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u/BaephBush BOS - NHL 13d ago
Oh god i didn’t know Burke’s son was killed in a crash at 21. I don’t ever want to know what that feels like.