r/nba • u/[deleted] • Apr 01 '23
[Post Game Thread] The Philadelphia 76ers (51-26) defeat the Toronto Raptors (38-39), 117-110. Post Game Thread
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u/NeonParticles Thunder Apr 01 '23
Imagine giving up 9 points to PJ Tucker
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u/bravof1ve 76ers Apr 01 '23
That's their defensive strategy, put 2-3 guys on the star every possession, let role players rain threes every time
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u/mMounirM Raptors Apr 01 '23
I thought we did that less today tbh. but you guys still made contested 3s.
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u/Rob-Dipshit Apr 01 '23
Didn’t he end the other night with 0 after starting? They were leaving him really open
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u/MaximumestBob Nuggets Bandwagon Apr 01 '23
Harden is a good basketball player
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u/Rob-Dipshit Apr 01 '23
I truly believe he hasn’t lost any skill in the past 2/3 years. Although I can’t help but feel like he’d be a lot more agile if he dropped 10/15 pounds. I know hes getting old and doesn’t drive to the basket as much anymore, but he showed he still has it tonight
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u/MaximumestBob Nuggets Bandwagon Apr 01 '23
I would be lying if I said I never thought he was washed after last season.
He's been proving that take wrong the whole year though basically
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u/MightyMudBone 76ers Apr 01 '23
Yeah I also think that the reality is, for some players, they have to play to stay in shape. We can all speculate why. But regardless, some players (including Harden and Embiid) need to be playing to stay anywhere close to game shape.
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u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23
i kinda have my doubts about that tbh
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u/northernjigby Raptors Apr 01 '23
High chance we lose FVV in the offseason and trade OG next season, if Nurse steps away I can see Adrian Griffin leaning into a Scottie development season
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u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23
in ur opinion whats his ceiling ? and pls be honest with me
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u/Phoeniyx Raptors Apr 01 '23
Giannis. You said ceiling.
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u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23
i alllow it now tell me in realism
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u/Punjabiveer30 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Realistically I could see Scottie becoming what Ben Simmons was supposed to be
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u/DontPMMeYourDreams 76ers Apr 01 '23
I like Scottie, and that's probably a good projection... but I still hate it
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u/AllOutRaptors Raptors Apr 01 '23
It's honestly hard to put a realistic guess as to what he will become. If he can play aggressively and continue to work on his shooting, he could be a top 10 player in the league. Ironically enough, I think his realistic outcome is around a Siakam level, but with better playmaking
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u/northernjigby Raptors Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
Dream scenario I think he could be as good as Jimmy Butler, buuuuut he's got to get over his passivity and have the opportunity to take the reins for a few seasons to develop
EDIT: Realistically, I'm not sure, he's a point forward with great passing and a confidence problem maybe he'll be Ben Simmons 2.0
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u/Kevita24 Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
He's a much better play maker than Butler, that's no knock on Butler but Scottie is legit a visionary passer and that's not a stretch to say...Butler is more of a secondary playmaker, he's a very good playmaker for a forward but Scottie can play the point and be a legit 8-9 assist per game guard in his prime IMO
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u/hotjawn 76ers Apr 01 '23
VanVleet is my favorite sixer..he always delivers for us
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u/kobbled 76ers Apr 01 '23
Somehow he was +8 in 41 mins
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u/FetchFrosh Nuggets Bandwagon Apr 01 '23
Pretty sure that's just from him being off while Harden went supernova in the second quarter.
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u/q1someguy Raptors Apr 01 '23
Starters good, bench dogshit. Especially at pg, and at shooting (fucking Otto lmao).
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u/ABagOfPopcorn 76ers Apr 01 '23
As good as he was in the finals he was terrible in our series that year
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Pre-ECF Game 3 Fred and Post-ECF Game 3 Fred were two very different players, I’ve never seen someone totally flip performance-wise so dramatically before or since.
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u/schoolhater12 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Half Court Terrorist. He always delivers. Mr reliable. Has Nick Nurse's needs
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u/Closer586 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Harden has a great game but it's crazy how much the Raptors were willing to help off him because he refuses to catch and shoot, it actually worked pretty well.
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u/Niceguydan8 NBA Apr 01 '23
he refuses to catch and shoot,
This year he's been generally pretty good about that, though. So it's weird that he was not willing to do it.
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u/_Thanks-Obama_ Raptors Apr 01 '23
This was a big point of emphasis in our playoff series last year as well.
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u/zmose 76ers Apr 01 '23
Please go west, Nick Nurse
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u/5566y 76ers Apr 01 '23
Please come to Philly Nick Nurse
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u/ZeroMomentum Raptors Apr 01 '23
It would be a mistake to fire NN. The long boi experiment has gone very wrong
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u/Kevita24 Apr 01 '23
Nurse would be the most hated figure in Canada is this happened lol could you imagine...
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Surprisingly entertaining game all around.
- Scottie was great, we’re starting to approach “best player on the team” territory.
- Pascal and Fred both having a bad night is still not a recipe for success.
- Nick’s pregame interview has me concerned for next season, but I’ll save tomorrow’s issues for tomorrow’s me.
I’d say this team is destined to end up 41-41, but we still have to face the Celtics twice, Bucks once and our next 2 games are against a Hornets team that has actually looked competent lately, so… we’ll see what happens.
GG Sixers, ya filthy animals.
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u/willbottomforembiid 76ers Apr 01 '23
will forever root for scottie. dont really hope to see yall in the playoffs but gl and please beat the celtics and bucks ya little dinosaurs
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u/No_Football1323 Celtics Apr 01 '23
Nice measured take. Curious, how would you say Siakim’s been this year? Man seemed to be ascending but haven’t heard much from him this year.
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Pre-ASB Siakam was arguably playing the best stretch of his career, ever since the ASB his production has slumped a bit, as to what caused this sudden slump is debatable.
Unfortunately, when one of our players breaks out of a slump this season, someone else goes into a slump.
If this team was on the same page they wouldn’t be under .500.
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u/boenwip Nuggets Bandwagon Apr 01 '23
Tbf Siakam was balling out when no one else was. Game after game. He went from “we have to stick together” to being visibly over losing, no matter how many points he put up. Ever since then I don’t know what’s happened, but he definitely hasn’t been the same dude that we were arguing should have been a non-debatable all star.
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u/q1someguy Raptors Apr 01 '23
Carried the team when everyone else was hot garbage in the early season. Was playing extremely well.
Then a couple months ago he started playing worse at every part of the game, and it's been quite bad in the last few weeks.
Adding Poeltl may have messed with the spacing and made things worse but he was playing noticably worse than the first half of the season for a little bit before the deadline too.
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u/ImS33 76ers Apr 01 '23
I got down voted a lot awhile ago for saying that maybe he just isn't a consistently great player at the start of the season but here we are again. I'd be pretty curious to know if he's actually going in and out of slumps yearly or if it's just some insane streak of various things bringing him back down over and over
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u/_Thanks-Obama_ Raptors Apr 01 '23
It's been really refreshing to see back to back games from Scottie where he looked like the best player on the team from start to finish. He's played with an assertiveness from start to finish that hasn't been there most of the year. Some really special passes today as well.
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u/rejus_crust Raptors Apr 01 '23
Celtics and Bucks might be resting at that point. That’s my current cope.
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
If they weren’t so close in the standings, I’d agree.
Celtics might rest one of Tatum/Brown for one of the games, but I highly doubt they sit both of them for both games.
Bucks are the last game of the season, so that one’s up in the air.
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u/bravof1ve 76ers Apr 01 '23
Hard fought game but Toronto got their dub, holding Embiid to 25/12 (below his season average)
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u/ImS33 76ers Apr 01 '23
Great to see us taking Harden's health seriously and keeping him at only 37 minutes
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u/GenericDarkFriend San Diego Rockets Apr 01 '23
Nurse has to be up there with Luka in the top 10 complainers list, just screaming and looking absolutely bewildered anytime his team ever commits a foul
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u/ranchsauce13 76ers Apr 01 '23
Can’t believe he didn’t get T’d up at any point since Glenn got one early on for much less
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u/GenericDarkFriend San Diego Rockets Apr 01 '23
especially when they T’d up Doc and Embiid for complaining. This guy is literally screaming at the officials every possession
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u/ranchsauce13 76ers Apr 01 '23
Didn’t even shake hands at the end of the game either, no respect for him
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u/Phils531 Apr 01 '23
Yeah, he definitely is a great coach but I can not stand when I have to watch him.
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u/ComeAtMeYo Heat Bandwagon Apr 01 '23
GG Raptors, ya'll didn't give up and pushed us in the second half.
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u/TheseBitchesLoveSoba Raptors Apr 01 '23
GGs breh 🙏🏽
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u/superstonkape 76ers Apr 01 '23
W username lol
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u/TheseBitchesLoveSoba Raptors Apr 01 '23
🤣 I'm glad someone gets it, I had a hard time explaining to people in the past what it meant haha. Game recognise game 🤣
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u/superstonkape 76ers Apr 01 '23
😂😂😂😂 great double entendre
Now I wanna make a new account naked TheseBitchesLoveBoba
But it doesn’t quite have the same ring.
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u/TheseBitchesLoveSoba Raptors Apr 01 '23
Nah see I would personally endorse this if you decide to go that route
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u/superstonkape 76ers Apr 01 '23
Hahaha maybe I’ll have to. I’m just giving props we’re they’re due cus Soba is closer to Sosa than Boba ykwim
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u/WickedRuiner Raptors Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
At least the Raps made it a game...
Felt like Philly shot 1000% in the first half.
GG Sixers
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u/UnfilteredGarbage 76ers Apr 01 '23
I think they missed 1 shot in the 2nd quarter and that was an Embiid heave at the end of the shot clock
Edit: missed 3. A block on a Harden shot, a Melton missed driving layup and the shot clock heave.
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u/ballin4ever Apr 01 '23
Im sorry but comitting to Siakam is not worth stunting Scotties growth and thats the hard truth.
Teams ceiling is first round, and its painfully obvious. And I love Siakam and everything hes done for this franchise, great story.
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u/daddy_OwO 76ers Apr 01 '23
Too bad the mavs don’t have anything, you’d need a 3 or 4 team deal centered around Kylie to LA and players/picks to Raps to have a chance of it getting done but they would do so much better with Siakam. The Nugs might be an option, especially since they would probably send Murray for some career rehab unless he pops off again in the playoffs and you would get good picks
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u/ballin4ever Apr 01 '23
Murray would be an enticing fit with Scottie and the Raptors. I think Nuggets would have to flame out this year to consider that
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u/daddy_OwO 76ers Apr 01 '23
Or Murray just has to play like he has all year. If Pascal is the option to replace Murray with and Murray doesn’t look worthwhile then a trade might be best to maximize the teams chances
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u/_coed_ Nets Apr 01 '23
Siakams not fucking up anything for Scottie.
That bum they have playing point guard on the other hand
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u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23
tbh i think its more fred then siakam, siakam is willing to play within the flow and w.e mismatches he gets. fred however at times thinks he's him.
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
Embiid felt invisible tonight and still has 25/12 with a 68.4 TS%. MVP
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u/Goalnado [TOR] OG Anunoby Apr 01 '23
An entertaining game all things considered, although Scottie deserved better than a Fred/Pascal disasterclass
We desperately need another PG, because Fred is increasingly unreliable but whenever he comes off we immediately collapse. Dowtin went -13 in 9 minutes in the second quarter and got repeatedly abused by Harden.
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u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23
i seen in ur subreddit yall actually hype him up lol. yall down bad then
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
The fact that he’s been one of our better bench pieces this year speaks volumes.
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u/schoolhater12 Raptors Apr 01 '23
another great performance by the leader of our half court terrorism organization. Scottie tried his darnest to win but our leader made sure that the organization stayed true to its mission
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u/tirednewyorker 76ers Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
The Raptors are genuinely so hilarious to play against, like, congrats, you sold out to hold Embiid to an efficient 25/12, you lost and 90% of our team scored double digits or near it
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u/Tavarin [TOR] Pascal Siakam Apr 01 '23
At least they got it to 2 after being down 20 to keep it interesting.
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u/Head-Kiwi-9601 Apr 01 '23
And yet I never thought for a moment that they had any chance to win. Weird game.
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u/_Thanks-Obama_ Raptors Apr 01 '23
Did we watch the same game? The 76ers biggest run came with Embiid off the floor and Harden plus bench had a layup line in the 2nd Q. Embiid was cooking Poeltl in the first half so they changed the matchup to OG as the primary defender in the 2nd half to allow Poeltl to stay closer to the basket to provide help defense. 76ers then scored 40 points in the 2nd half...
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u/AdPotential9974 West Apr 01 '23
Sixers fans are way to cocky when we all know their team will collapse in the second round
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u/xX_FeetFucker54_Xx Raptors Apr 01 '23
Stop worrying about Embiid losing MVP and enjoy the win my brother
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u/tirednewyorker 76ers Apr 01 '23
Worry about making the second round of the play-in
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u/superstonkape 76ers Apr 01 '23
Dude please don’t tell people to worry about the second round of anything for the sake of our fan base lol
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u/seank11 Apr 01 '23
LOL I was about to say the same thing. A smart sixers fan you are, truly a sight to behold ;)
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u/superstonkape 76ers Apr 01 '23
I’m a Jayhawk fan first I know a little bit about winning in my lifetime
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u/seank11 Apr 01 '23
Lol did a mod just make every 6ers flair say jokic number 1 fan.
Shit is too funny
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u/xX_FeetFucker54_Xx Raptors Apr 01 '23
at the end of the postseason both our teams gonna be ringless so wtv 🤷♂️
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u/AdPotential9974 West Apr 01 '23
Worry about making out of the second round for the first time in 2 decades
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u/tirednewyorker 76ers Apr 01 '23
Crazy how we haven’t made it out of the second round since 2001 and we’re still a more successful franchise than 80% of the league
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u/AdPotential9974 West Apr 01 '23
Doubt.
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u/tirednewyorker 76ers Apr 01 '23
3 rings is more than 22 of the 30 teams in the league /shrug
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u/AdPotential9974 West Apr 01 '23
Wow! 2 rings before your parents were alive and another when Ronald Reagan was president. How incredible.
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u/ItsKBS NBA Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
I always wondered why Raptors fans are so obsessed over Embiid but after seeing their team play I am not surprised they care more about Embiid than their own team. Damn they are trash.
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u/ItsKBS NBA Apr 01 '23
I never had a Sixers flair, I keep getting this question constantly so I will just copy paste my previous comment:
I am from the Netherlands so I don't have any team close to me that I can be a fan of, I follow the Sixers now because Harden is my favorite NBA player of all time and Embiid is one of my favorite players too. But I wouldn't call myself necessarily a Sixers fan because I might not even follow them anymore if Harden would leave to Houston for example
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u/ItsKBS NBA Apr 01 '23
You're entire history is shitting on other teams players
Who did I shit on except of Jokic's defense lol
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u/ItsKBS NBA Apr 01 '23
Raptors fans aren't players and where did you see me shit on Tatum? Someone said why Tatum is not sitting b2bs like Kawhi and I just said because Tatum's knees aren't cooked like Kawhi. How is that shitting on Tatum at all?
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u/DieselLegal 76ers Apr 01 '23
Dam son u diccridin dis dood’s post history??? 😂🤣🤣😂
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u/xX_FeetFucker54_Xx Raptors Apr 01 '23
yea we’re trash ngl. I bet if we become the leagues biggest embarrassment by purposefully tanking for a full decade and have a 10 win season we could be good again
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u/HumperMoe 76ers Apr 01 '23
Raptors sixers games are always fun. Especially the interactions with the fans, straight toxicity. Then the game ends and everyone's complimenting each other and talking about how great a game it was. Exactly how it should be.
GG
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u/PumpkinHead555 Bucks Apr 01 '23
I want Raps bad in the 1st round. They so trash man
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u/SPC54 Raptors Apr 01 '23
I mean, we could also just end up missing the playoffs entirely.
Between Heat/Hawks/Raptors, how would you rank them in preference to which you want to face?
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u/daddy_OwO 76ers Apr 01 '23
Heat and raps will hustle and clobber a teams stars. How anyone wants those teams idk, they also both have stars that can take over games and extend the series
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u/TA135N Raptors Apr 01 '23
I actually want to face the bucks. Although y’all would obviously win, I think it could be competitive for an 8th seed
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
No you don’t. They’ll injure a player or two on their way to getting swept
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u/free_kark Raptors Apr 01 '23
Someone please protect these delicate athletes from the mean Raptors 😭
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
You guys compete with physicality to make up for a lack of talent. It is what it is.
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u/free_kark Raptors Apr 01 '23
My god do you just cover your eyes and hide when hockey or football comes on? Basketball is not a zero contact sport stop acting like our team is violent psychos for playing defense.
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
No one cares about hockey other than you Canadians
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u/free_kark Raptors Apr 01 '23
It's probably too scary for you to watch, I understand 🫂
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
Canadians can’t even win a Stanley cup in their own sport. Your whole country is an L
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u/free_kark Raptors Apr 01 '23
Canadian players lead American teams to Stanley cups every year, and Canadian teams have won 42/105 Cups despite only having 7 teams vs. 23 American teams.
As far as L countries go, like you're American... I don't really have to say more
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u/Master-Ad7325 76ers Apr 01 '23
When was the last time a Canadian team won the cup?
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u/supernaturalfor Apr 01 '23
It's ok they already dealt with us...after we beat your asses on to our championship while Embiid cried
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Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 15 '23
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u/Chiffley 76ers Apr 01 '23
Tbh what annoys me is they continue to go on about how "embiid is a dangerous player" then just ignore the fact siakam cost us our season on a bush league play
If embiid cost them a playoff run we'd literally never hear the end of it
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u/Wa1337 Raptors Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
Pascal Siakam is a two-time All-Star and All-NBA selection. He is not performing well and certainly not leading this team when we need it. Pretty concerning that that he constantly fades away on shots where he should be going towards the basket, especially when smaller defenders are on him. When he wants to get his shot, he doesn't look to pass. Can't have that for a player with his accolades. His two-man game with Poeltl has been non-existent, and he doesn't look to move off the ball when Scottie or OG have the ball. The Raptors need more from him or they should get whatever return they can for him and give Scottie a greater role.
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u/DudeWheresMcCaw Raptors Apr 01 '23
Good game. Glad it wasn't a total dud like yesterday's Bucks vs Celtics.
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u/Prince_of_DeaTh Nuggets Apr 01 '23
This was one of the best Barnes games ever, unlucky that nobody cares because they lost.
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Raptors absolute trash. Feels great to get out of the game without injuries. Like playing your little brother who gets frustrated he can't compete on the same level
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u/Extreme_Ad_7594 Apr 01 '23
Love how youre in our reddit sub on a friday night. Hope you dont wake up still thinking about us
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Oh I'll be dreaming about that g-league beat down all night. Fun to watch scrub franchise wallow in realization that the team, coach, and fans are trash
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u/SiakamClears Raptors Apr 01 '23
Need a tissue for those tears?
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Need a baby wipe for that ass f***ing?
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u/SiakamClears Raptors Apr 01 '23
You had two 20 points leads and won by 7, enjoy that 2nd round exit 😂😂
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u/BKBance Raptors Apr 01 '23
Lol he's so proud of nearly choking a 20 point lead to this mid Raptors team
fake contender
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u/SiakamClears Raptors Apr 01 '23
Let them enjoy this bra, it’ll make their playoff collapse so much sweeter.
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u/Niceguydan8 NBA Apr 01 '23
I mean this whole exchange is corny ass shit talk from both sides, saying something like this is just dumb.
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u/droreddit Raptors Apr 01 '23
yep, it's great that Joel didn't fall into anyone's knees tonight, although he got his customary elbow into someone's jaw.
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Funny, Danny green calls that man MVP this year. By your account, guess that's the most non biased opinion on earth. It's great that refs actually called offensive fouls. PS looking like the shit player he is.
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u/droreddit Raptors Apr 01 '23
And? Danny Green ain't thinking straight since Joel almost ended his career. PS got the most rings of any Cameroonian in the league.
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Did he hurt his leg or his head? Can a raptors fan even differentiate body parts? Is that why y'all put dicks in your ears?
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u/Man_With_A_Can Tampa Bay Raptors Apr 01 '23 edited 17d ago
Enjoy the second round exit brother 🫡🫡🫡
edit: LMFAO he blocked me. Regardless, I eagerly await your vacation dm <3
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Saving every single 2nd round exit post I see this year. Going to take a week of vacation to pm every single one of em
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u/lucastimmons 17d ago edited 16d ago
Wow, this aged well, didn't it?
Edit: LOL u/ktm1128 blocked me too.
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u/MrkGrn Raptors Apr 01 '23
4 bounces lives in your head rent free for eternity
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u/ktm1128 76ers Apr 01 '23
Hardly. He couldn't wait to leave your dogshit franchise. Only played because he was under contract. That's a kawhi moment, not a raptors moment. More about how every 1 of your fans is a complete fuckhead and no 1 except talentless thugs agree to stay there
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u/CanadianCaesar98 Raptors Apr 01 '23
That’s a Kawhi moment, not a Raptors moment.
Fucking LOL
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u/Kevita24 Apr 01 '23
76ers aren't that good, homie...lol they're not getting past the Celtics or the Bucks and Harden isn't getting any younger so good luck with that...
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u/Dxwalsh12 Raptors Apr 01 '23
Scottie was clearly the best player for the Raptors tonight. Try getting some experience this year and let Scottie cook next season
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u/CameronFcScott Raptors Apr 01 '23
Was actually a really fun game to watch with a fair whistle. Two notes is Scottie is gonna be that guy and needs a bench/shooters ASAP and Embiid really has to work on passing
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u/arykoju 76ers Apr 01 '23
This felt about right for Toronto vs Philly game. Solid defense on Embiid and making other guys hit shots