r/nba • u/HokageEzio Knicks • Apr 01 '23
[Post Game Thread] The New York Knicks (45-33) defeat The Cleveland Cavaliers (48-30) 130-116 Post Game Thread
New York Knicks at Cleveland Cavaliers
Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse- Cleveland, OH
| Time Clock |
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| Final |
| Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Total | |
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| NYK | 42 | 37 | 26 | 25 | 130 |
| CLE | 47 | 25 | 30 | 14 | 116 |
Player Stats
New York Knicks
| Player | MINS | PTS | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | ORB | DRB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | +/- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| R. Barrett | 29:57 | 14 | 6-17 | 2-7 | 0-0 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 10 |
| O. Toppin | 18:35 | 12 | 5-7 | 2-2 | 0-0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -4 |
| M. Robinson | 22:15 | 10 | 4-5 | 0-0 | 2-3 | 9 | 5 | 14 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | -1 |
| Q. Grimes | 35:59 | 14 | 4-9 | 3-8 | 3-3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| J. Brunson | 37:36 | 48 | 18-32 | 7-12 | 5-8 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 3 |
| J. Hart | 29:25 | 11 | 4-4 | 1-1 | 2-3 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 18 |
| I. Quickley | 30:04 | 14 | 5-16 | 2-6 | 2-3 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 18 |
| I. Hartenstein | 25:45 | 5 | 2-2 | 0-0 | 1-4 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 15 |
| M. McBride | 10:23 | 2 | 1-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 |
Cleveland Cavaliers
| Player | MINS | PTS | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | ORB | DRB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | +/- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| C. LeVert | 37:00 | 15 | 5-12 | 4-7 | 1-1 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | -12 |
| L. Stevens | 24:29 | 2 | 1-6 | 0-3 | 0-0 | 1 | 6 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | -8 |
| E. Mobley | 41:04 | 14 | 6-8 | 0-0 | 2-3 | 0 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | -6 |
| D. Mitchell | 39:51 | 42 | 16-23 | 6-9 | 4-5 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 5 | -8 |
| D. Garland | 37:56 | 20 | 8-19 | 2-4 | 2-2 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | -10 |
| C. Osman | 20:44 | 14 | 4-9 | 4-8 | 2-2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
| R. Rubio | 9:22 | 2 | 1-3 | 0-2 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -8 |
| D. Wade | 12:57 | 5 | 2-4 | 1-3 | 0-0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | -5 |
| R. Lopez | 6:56 | 2 | 1-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -8 |
| R. Neto | 9:41 | 0 | 0-1 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -7 |
Team Stats
| Team | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | AST | PF | STL | TO | BLK | OREB | DREB | REB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NYK | 49-93 | 17-36 | 15-24 | 24 | 12 | 6 | 7 | 5 | 16 | 32 | 57 |
| CLE | 44-86 | 17-37 | 11-13 | 33 | 21 | 2 | 10 | 9 | 3 | 30 | 40 |
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u/JonnyBGoode92 Apr 01 '23
Mavs fucked up
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u/logontoreddit [HOU] Hakeem Olajuwon Apr 01 '23
Mark Cuban with another masterful art of fuckin up what's good. He did it with Nash, did it with Mavs championship team and like clockwork did it with Brunson.
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Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 19 '23
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u/AutisticFingerBang Knicks Apr 01 '23
Brunson said he would’ve signed a 55 mil extension with them a year before free agency lol
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Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 19 '23
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u/AutisticFingerBang Knicks Apr 01 '23
He had 3 years of chances and I think after the playoffs last year brunson was ready to go off on his own and be that guy. Idk if Cuban was gunna be able to convince him without opening up the check book in a big way
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u/spaceninj [NYK] Trent Tucker Apr 01 '23
I've been calling him a Dolan level owner who got lucky that he inherited Dirk (and almost wasted his career) and traded for Luka.
Those are two big things, but the mistakes he's made (losing Brunson, trading Nash, letting Chandler walk, etc) have been horrific.
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u/EwingsRevenge21 Apr 01 '23
A little bit louder now
A little bit LOUDER now
A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW
A LITTLE BIT LOUDER NOW
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u/OhioUBobcats Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
I stan Jalen Brunson from now on
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u/BiasedChelseaFan Mitchell Robinson Apr 01 '23
And I stan Mitchell lol. Nice to see both our teams in a good place for once!
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u/nathima1 Knicks Apr 01 '23
Bruh they had Lebron in his prime
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u/BiasedChelseaFan Mitchell Robinson Apr 01 '23
Yeah but we got one title combined since the 70’s lol
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u/crazychris4124 Knicks Apr 01 '23
Not gonna overact but we are sweeping the Monstars in the Galactic Cup
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u/leopardinatree Apr 01 '23
So many people were wrong about this Brunson dude. Love to see it.
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u/goli14 Apr 01 '23
Specially Mark Cuban.
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u/ChaosIceKing Knicks Apr 02 '23
95% of this sub as well. At one point after the Knicks signed him in FA, there were threads left and right saying how overrated, overpaid and how we were going to regret signing him for that contract. Now it's probably a top 10 bargain contract in the league
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u/UteFlyersCardJazz Jazz Apr 01 '23
I wanted him in the 2018 draft. But no, we picked Grayson Allen.
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u/realmadridsupremacy Knicks Apr 01 '23
HIT THE MOTHERFUCKING MUSIC
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u/BabyYodaX Knicks Apr 01 '23
We need to start planning now on how to keep Eric Adams away from any possible Knicks playoff games.
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u/DrizzleJesus [NYK] Latrell Sprewell Apr 01 '23
keep that fucking lame ass milk dud away from MSG at all costs
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u/kanst Knicks Apr 01 '23
He was at yankees opening day the day before too. I don't need that bozo on any broadcast ever
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u/redbeard019 Knicks Apr 01 '23
It might kill me, idgaf. I can not WAIT for a 7 game series of this.
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
7 games???
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u/Jepordee Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
We are not good enough to be talking shit lmao
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
We would beat them in 5-6
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u/Its_Mike_Nasty Knicks Apr 01 '23
We're 3-1 against you this season, lol.
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u/DayMan-Ahah-ah Celtics Apr 01 '23
clearly a casual, the knicks are on another level this year
brunson and hart have been awesome, and randle is better with less pressure
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u/lisbon_OH Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
And we are 3-1 against the Celts. Not agreeing with that other guy that it there’s no way it goes to 7 but regular season record against a specific team doesn’t really matter much come playoffs.
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u/bagonmaster Knicks Apr 01 '23
We are also 3-1 against the Celts so idk what your point is
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u/snazzmasterj Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
I think he was saying he believes we'd lose to the celtics in series despite having a winning record against them
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u/bagonmaster Knicks Apr 01 '23
I think either of our teams have a chance against the Celtics, they don’t match up well against us
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u/redbeard019 Knicks Apr 01 '23
I mean, shit, I’d love to wrap it up in 4 because like id said, id probably die. But Mitchell gonna be pissed and both teams healthier will make this all the more challenging
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u/Stelist_Knicks Apr 01 '23
We swept the Hawks in their regular season series 2 years ago. They just about swept us. I have faith but I can't count my chickens before they hatch.
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u/MeringueArtistic2285 Raptors Apr 01 '23
The fact everyone is assuming you mean the Cavs in 5 or 6 instead of the Knics says all you need to know
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u/Right-Worth-6327 Rockets Apr 01 '23
Remember when people were saying Brunson was overpaid?
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u/ObviousAnswerGuy [NYK] John Starks Apr 01 '23
and now he's actually underpaid lol. Plus his contract is front loaded, so he's gonna be making less next year.
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u/At6-8FromSyracuse [NYK] Carmelo Anthony Apr 01 '23
Fun 1st round preview. I think Allen might be a bigger loss for the Cavs than Randle is for us. Jalen Brunson is the best player in the world when Donovan Mitchell is on the other side
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u/King_Dead [CLE] Donovan Mitchell Apr 01 '23
JA is a massive loss, same as last year. Him and mobley basically lock down the paint
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u/aznhoopster Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
I think Randle and Allen just bring different types of impact to their team, Allen more defensive and randle more offensive. But holy hell Brunson was unstoppable, thought the defense on him was fine too but the man went nuts. These dudes are gonna be gassed if they go up against each other first round, but it’d be a fun one too
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u/SomeFatherFigure Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Not only is Allen an excellent player, the Cavs have NOTHING behind him and Mobley that resembles a reliable rotation player.
Allen is reportedly just resting a nagging injury he had been playing through, so he should be fine for the playoffs. But the team’s defensive schemes just don’t work without at least one of him or Mobley out there. Not having Okoro either meant Brunson could go nuts as long as he stayed clear of Mobley.
Lopez was a -8 in the SIX minutes he was out there.
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u/At6-8FromSyracuse [NYK] Carmelo Anthony Apr 01 '23
Yeah that was my point, not really comparing their respective ability but we can kind of cover up for Randle's production with multiple guys taking on bigger roles, Allen is irreplacable
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u/Laluci [NYK] Kristaps Porzingis Apr 01 '23
Unpopular opinion but as a knick fan I prefer how the Knicks play without Randle. He's a great player, but he has very bad moments that ruin the entire team chemistry. He's very temperamental and when he's having a bad game he continues to shoot more and give up more turnovers.
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u/At6-8FromSyracuse [NYK] Carmelo Anthony Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
I don't think there's any doubt that Randle's production comes at the expense of others'. Whether or not it's still a net positive I'm not sure but we're definitely more fun to watch without him
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Mitchell was a better player today tho..
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u/TheKnicksMakeMeDrink Knicks Apr 01 '23
42/4/5 on a minus 8 with an L vs 48/9/4 on a plus 3 with a W
How do you figure?
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u/TheTrollisStrong Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Ignore him. Salty.
Brunson was insane. Felt like he could score whenever he wanted, and definitely was hunting Mitchell on defense.
JB should have adjusted better to not leave Mitchell on an island half the time.
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Mitchell took a lot less shots little bro.
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u/At6-8FromSyracuse [NYK] Carmelo Anthony Apr 01 '23
Did a lot less winning too LMAO
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
What you going to say when he beats you in 5?
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u/Brooklyn-Mikal San Francisco Warriors Apr 01 '23
Y’all getting hopped bro. Jalen gunna torch y’all and I can’t fucking wait
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
You stupid af.. all warriors fans are. They losing in 5
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u/Brooklyn-Mikal San Francisco Warriors Apr 01 '23
We NY all day over here as well buddy. Y’all getting hopped. Mitchell can’t hold Jalens jockstrap.
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u/At6-8FromSyracuse [NYK] Carmelo Anthony Apr 01 '23
Idk ask me when that happens rather than after we beat the piss out of your team without our all star?
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u/TheTrollisStrong Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Stop making us Cavs fans look bad.
Accept the fact they both were brilliant and move on. Being salty does nothing
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u/Livid-Instruction289 Apr 01 '23
Doesn’t matter if he took less shots. He didn’t hit them when they mattered. Brunson shot 58%. You acting like his 48 was inefficient.
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u/Chao-Z Knicks Apr 01 '23
Cuz the Knicks did a better job denying him the ball
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Or garland kept taking shots…
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u/CapSRogers Knicks Apr 01 '23
Sorry your other player is a dumbass
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u/Stelist_Knicks Apr 01 '23
Fewer* not less
Also yes he was great today. Brunson assisted quite a bit and his gravity helped us a lot today.
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Mitchell would easily have 8* assist if garland didn’t play.
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u/Stelist_Knicks Apr 01 '23
And if Garland played Mitchell would have fewer points.... And if Randle played Brunson would have more assists.
You sure you wanna play the what if game? It's dumb
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
What? Garland did play.. and if he didn’t Mitchell would have more… randle isn’t a PG…
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u/Stelist_Knicks Apr 01 '23
I misspoke/misread. You said Mitchell would have 8 assists if Garland didn't play.
Also, Randle isn't a PG but he scores points? So Brunson would have more assists (via passing to randle) ?
It's all speculation and bullshit. It's a pointless Convo. Maybe Mitchell would have had 8 assists if X happened. Guess what, he didn't.
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u/No_Buddy_ Knicks Apr 01 '23
Maybe if he took a few more you guys wouldn't have gotten blown out at home in the 4th quarter? Just a thought.
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u/asapfetty Knicks Apr 01 '23
Brunson should be in the All-NBA discussion. He has been insane this season
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u/CrabCakesBenedict Knicks Apr 01 '23
cavs were missing okoro and allen, knicks were missing randle and RJ
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u/asapfetty Knicks Apr 01 '23
RJ was meh most of the game, but hit two straight buckets in the 4th to put us up 13. Don’t need to tear down one of our players when this team is clicking
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u/CrabCakesBenedict Knicks Apr 01 '23
i still love him but i am going to continue making fun of him
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u/Jeff-Van-Gundy Knicks Apr 01 '23
I love RJ and I want him to do well so bad but those 2 rebounds that displayed his complete lack of court awareness were very infuriating.
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u/OnlyMamaKnows Knicks Apr 01 '23
Might be best 1st round series of the playoffs.
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u/Justin_Zetts Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
easily. so excited for both of our teams bro. this shit's gonna be fire. and then one of us gets rewarded with an unceremonious clobbering by Milwaukee. may the best team win
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan Knicks Apr 01 '23
I think being optimistic, getting to the second round would be a solid start of something for either of our teams. Would be cool if one of us could push Milwaukee a bit too and not get clobbered.
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u/HokageEzio Knicks Apr 01 '23
Let's make it a date, Cleveland.
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
I don’t love having to adopt this “Brunson owns Mitchell” narrative from when these dudes were on entirely different teams
Like this shows how silly fandom is sometimes that seeing it makes me mad even tho he wasn’t even on my team when it happened lol
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u/King_Dead [CLE] Donovan Mitchell Apr 01 '23
Literally just said die once we got to within 3. I know we didnt have okoro and JA but cmon
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u/ksweet98 Knicks Apr 01 '23
This playoff series is gonna be a must watch. I know I'm biased but wow these 2 match up so well.
Brunson might not get any award recognition but he's become what every Knicks fan has dreamed of. I've been waiting a long time for some reliable guard play lmao
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u/JTsoICEYY Knicks Apr 01 '23
I wouldn’t mind if RJ is just benched for the rest of the year.
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u/azizinator25 [NYK] Charles Oakley Apr 01 '23
If we just pretend that RJ and Hart switch contracts, everything looks much better
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u/Cam2071 Knicks Apr 01 '23
His inefficiency kills me.
RJ Baa-Rick
His corner 3s are ok and his driving to the basket is great. But his finishing and shot creation are painful.
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u/Johnnnybones Apr 01 '23
His finishing has significantly improved this year. The three point shooting, not so much
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u/Odysseus_Lannister Knicks Apr 01 '23
I know good and well that a second round exit is our absolute ceiling this year but goddamn that was fun. GG, Cleveland it’s gonna be an absolute war in the first round.
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u/tonezzz1 Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
I thought we may have a chance to make it through a couple rounds of playoffs, but now, whoever wins is just going to be gassed for the next round.
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u/Odysseus_Lannister Knicks Apr 01 '23
Mainly because when’s the last time an team won without a bonafide superstar? Brunson is amazing but he’s still largely slept on. I just don’t think we could run through Giannis, Embiid/Harden, or the Jays in a best of 7 series without running out of gas.
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u/millagger Knicks Apr 01 '23
The Knicks really just went into the Cavs house and scored 130 to the best scoring and best by rating defense in the NBA without their All Star and hopefully All NBA I can't lie this is the kind of game that makes me very excited about our future. And yes I know the Cavs were missing Allen and Okoro but after so so many trash season I will choose to ignore that part and just be happy and excited.
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u/toggaf69 Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
You guys own us this year, I’m hoping it’s not the first round matchup lol
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u/IllAlwaysBeAKnickFan Knicks Apr 01 '23
Always just 1 game at a time. Regular season won’t mean anything once we get there. One game at a time.
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u/millagger Knicks Apr 01 '23
Randle injury will be a major factor but the Knicks have found a way to beat the Cavs some nights with great ofense and some night with better D. It's a really fun matchup for a Playoff Series.
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u/Jets2022Champs Knicks Apr 01 '23
Jalen Brunson is Donovan Mitchell’s father
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u/MegaAltarianite Apr 01 '23
I've been around sports a long time. Pretty sure if a player goes 16-23, 6-9 from three, with 42 points, nobody is "his father".
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u/MyNameIsAMeme Knicks Apr 01 '23
Jalen Brunson is Donovan Mitchell father
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
When we beat you guys this will be laughable
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u/iDewTV Knicks Apr 01 '23
U must get paid by the comment the way uve been acting in this thread lil bro 🤣🫵🤏🤏
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u/MyNameIsAMeme Knicks Apr 01 '23
U gotta wake up in Ohio, you’ve already lost.
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u/TheSmokedSalmon420 Cavaliers Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23
Lol win or lose I am gonna hate Knicks fans after the next few weeks, huh?
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Lopez Neto Wade and Osman are names the Knicks won’t see the playoffs. My buddy told me this was a statement win lol
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u/YanniSwagger Knicks Apr 01 '23
The more I scroll the more comments of you weeping I find
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u/TheTrollisStrong Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
For real. At first I thought there were a bunch of salty Cavs fans but realized it's just this one dude.
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u/hopoffmebruh Knicks Apr 01 '23
You know he wanted them to win this game so bad he going through all the stages of grief now 😂
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u/azizinator25 [NYK] Charles Oakley Apr 01 '23
I mean, ideally McBride and Toppin are also not people you see in the playoffs. I know you were missing Allen, but we were missing our best (or 2nd best) player, so it's not like our A team beat some skeleton crew
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Yeah but your backup isn’t Lopez… and Wade…
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u/JTsoICEYY Knicks Apr 01 '23
I have never seen someone so upset about a loss. Just let it go, bud.
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u/rmccarthy10 Knicks Apr 01 '23
The Knicks beat you in your own house by 14 without their best player.
I don't think it was a statement win but I'm sure it gave Donovan Mitchell something to think about
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u/TruthSayerFu Cavaliers Apr 01 '23
Not at all. He probably knows Lopez was the center for 5+ min and Wade Osman and Neto played alot too…
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u/Cul_what Lakers Apr 01 '23
A 7 game series of this? Knicks and Cavs fans might have a stroke per 2 quarters lmao