r/nba Pistons Apr 01 '23

[Post Game Thread] The Houston Rockets (19-59) defeat the Detroit Pistons (16-61), 121-115 in the battle of the tanks. Post Game Thread

115 - 121
Box Scores: NBA - Yahoo
 
GAME SUMMARY
Location: Toyota Center (15844), Clock: Final
Officials: Eric Lewis, Marat Kogut, and CJ Washington
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Total
Detroit Pistons 28 33 31 23 115
Houston Rockets 31 27 33 30 121
 
TEAM STATS
Team PTS FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% OREB TREB AST PF STL TO BLK
Detroit Pistons 115 43-89 48.3% 11-35 31.4% 18-27 66.7% 13 50 24 28 7 12 7
Houston Rockets 121 38-83 45.8% 11-31 35.5% 34-45 75.6% 14 61 18 24 9 12 5
 
PLAYER STATS
Detroit Pistons MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF ±
Isaiah LiversSF 28:44 12 4-8 3-6 1-1 1 3 4 0 0 1 0 4 -11
Marvin Bagley IIIPF 34:27 21 8-13 0-2 5-6 1 2 3 1 0 0 2 2 -11
James WisemanC 23:30 8 4-10 0-2 0-0 1 3 4 1 0 3 0 6 -6
Jaden IveySG 34:58 18 8-20 2-9 0-0 1 2 3 9 2 0 4 5 -11
Killian HayesPG 28:10 10 3-8 1-3 3-4 2 3 5 6 0 1 2 3 -2
Jalen Duren 24:30 11 4-7 0-0 3-8 5 5 10 0 2 1 1 4 0
Cory Joseph 25:02 17 7-11 3-6 0-0 1 3 4 5 1 1 2 1 -4
Eugene Omoruyi 17:11 11 3-7 1-4 4-6 1 2 3 0 0 0 1 1 4
Jared Rhoden 15:44 7 2-3 1-2 2-2 0 3 3 1 0 0 0 2 6
R.J. Hampton 07:43 0 0-2 0-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 5
Buddy Boeheim 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rodney McGruder 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Bojan Bogdanovic 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alec Burks 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cade Cunningham 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Hamidou Diallo 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Isaiah Stewart 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Houston Rockets MIN PTS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A ORB DRB REB AST STL BLK TO PF ±
Kenyon Martin Jr.SF 35:22 15 3-6 0-2 9-12 1 5 6 1 0 2 0 3 20
Jabari Smith Jr.PF 36:47 13 4-14 1-6 4-4 2 9 11 1 0 2 0 4 -5
Alperen SengunC 34:54 15 5-7 0-0 5-6 3 10 13 7 0 0 4 5 13
Jalen GreenSG 36:37 32 10-18 2-5 10-16 0 1 1 5 0 0 3 4 12
Kevin Porter Jr.PG 37:51 33 12-20 7-13 2-3 2 1 3 1 4 0 3 5 3
Tari Eason 24:01 5 1-11 1-2 2-2 6 4 10 1 2 1 0 1 -6
Josh Christopher 15:23 4 2-5 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 1 3 0 0 0 -1
Usman Garuba 05:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 -10
Daishen Nix 06:09 2 1-2 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 -2
Boban Marjanovic 07:55 2 0-0 0-0 2-2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 6
D.J. Augustin 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Frank Kaminsky 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Darius Days 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Trevor Hudgins 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jae'Sean Tate 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TyTy Washington Jr. 00:00 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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u/Apatheee Pistons Apr 01 '23

This basically guarantees using having the worst record in the league. I'm real excited to drop down to 5 and draft Gradey Dick.

14

u/PacificBrim Pistons Apr 01 '23

It's DickSZN. I unironically think he'd be a great pick for whoever gets #5

19

u/BocchiLover Apr 01 '23

If this really happens, I hope all the Pistons fans go back to this comment and f*** you up for prophesizing it. 🤣

4

u/MeringueArtistic2285 Raptors Apr 01 '23

Then trade down and get Nick Clowney

2

u/ejabno Raptors Apr 01 '23

If the Hornets don't land Wemby, they better draft Dick to go along with Ball

0

u/Grampz619 76ers Apr 01 '23

That is some name lmao

74

u/dk240996 [BOS] Gigi Datome Apr 01 '23

16-61, despite being extremely sad, is a very visually appealing record.

8

u/combong [HOU] Alperen Şengün Apr 01 '23

we can only go up from here

106

u/Game_Over_Man69 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Detroit is officially the only team in the NBA that couldn’t beat the Rockets this season. 😂

12

u/EfficientAstronaut1 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Rip bozos

7

u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

Celtics entered chat

1

u/Coattail-Rider Apr 01 '23

Rockets lost against the Celtics back in Dec.

64

u/x20mike07x Pistons Apr 01 '23

13

u/scarywolverine Pistons Apr 01 '23

And we freakin won!!! DEETROIT BASKETBALL!!!

11

u/mishmashedtosunday [LAL] Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Apr 01 '23

Greatest tank battle since Kursk

6

u/MercilessOne Apr 01 '23

That game is pretty fire.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

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u/Relevant_Rev Rockets Apr 01 '23

Would love another Houston and Detroit top two

17

u/Few_Mulberry5372 Rockets Apr 01 '23

With it being our turn at the 1st pick

-27

u/SlimReaper35_ Thunder Apr 01 '23

How about those shitty teams get good and win for once

20

u/Relevant_Rev Rockets Apr 01 '23

We can't all jump ship to an already-winning team like you, KD

Some of us have to be a lil patient

2

u/Blaspheming_Bobo Rockets Apr 01 '23

I like how one of KD's burners has OKC flair. "This'll throw them off the rail."

5

u/sorendiz [HOU] Yao Ming Apr 01 '23

How about deez nuts bestie

6

u/iatetoomuchcatnip Apr 01 '23

These dudes have one average season the past 5 years and already talking shit lol.

71

u/bllr32423 Magic Apr 01 '23

It’s hard for me to not see Jalen Green being successful in the NBA. His athleticism and shotmaking is just so impressive. I’m excited to see him continue to develop

Perplexing coaching decisions by Silas to finish that game btw….

57

u/OKCDraftPick2028 Lakers Apr 01 '23

Jalen Green is held to a different standard amongst his draft class. He the only one to average 22 in his second season and still getting called "bust"

if the other players in his draft class had Silas as coach, i doubt they would even as good as they are right now

26

u/KryptoNike007 San Diego Rockets Apr 01 '23

It’s just perception and people holding onto narratives. Everyone thought he’d be ROY but he started off slow.

If he had his 30 point game streak to start off his rookie season instead of the end he’d be called the next superstar.

6

u/browndude10 Rockets Apr 01 '23

And he’s doing this with the worst coach in the league and no spacing or plays drawn up

5

u/Grlions91 Pistons Apr 01 '23

Nobody's calling Jalen Green a bust, and taking stock in anyone's opinion that says that is just dumb.

3

u/OKCDraftPick2028 Lakers Apr 01 '23

not what I've seen. they been calling him darko milicic of this draft

9

u/Grlions91 Pistons Apr 01 '23

I'm sorry, but nobody's saying that. And anyone who is is clearly trolling. Idk why your even entertaining that and giving it any credibility by repeating it. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

2

u/browndude10 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Yea there were people last year comparing the draft board to the one in 2003 and saying look history repeats itself

2

u/Coattail-Rider Apr 01 '23

Am I missing who’s going to be the next Lebron/Wade/Carmelo/Bosh?

4

u/_s0lace_ Rockets Apr 01 '23

Not only Silas but the shit roster with inexperience that Jalen has to play with. It’s going to be hard to look good when you have no shooting to open up lanes and no playmakers to create easy looks. Also no lob threat aside from 6”7 KJ.

0

u/RodneyPonk Raptors Apr 01 '23

I mean, from what I hear his defense, passing and efficiency are poor. I think people had hoped to see more development, but it's understandable he hasn't taken a leap with that awful situation

17

u/HoopsMcCann750 Pacers Apr 01 '23

The million dollar question is does he take bad shots because that’s what he likes to do or does he take bad shots because he’s playing for a shitty coach and no veterans to keep him in check. We’ll know next year.

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u/2ToTooTwoFish [HOU] Steve Francis Apr 01 '23

Or he takes bad shots because we can't generate good shots for him. Having a vet to keep him in check won't do any good, we need a point guard or a better offensive system.

8

u/chode0311 Rockets Apr 01 '23

He has to lead the league in "shot attempts from teammates passing you the ball with seconds left on the shot clock". Our offense is bad. So it happens a lot. And a lot of Green's bad shots coke from that. Green kinda is a safety blanket in the sense his teammates know he can at least get a shot off because it's hard to block his jumper.

6

u/chanman404 Rockets Apr 01 '23

He’s matured heavily throughout the season and is one of the few players on the team who isn’t just out there trying to get his own every time the ball touches his hands.

Jalen doesn’t really get easy looks ever and seems to be taking a lot less bad shots - he really only takes them when he’s feeling himself. Whether he can be a top option on a contender or not in the future, I have no idea, but I think he’s destined to be a top scorer in the league once he can get a few easy looks a game and not be the sole focus of the defense.

I have absolute no hate for KPJ, but watching him run point guard is infuriating. He’ll have possessions where he literally doesn’t look at anything but the hoop and just drives into 4 defenders instead of hitting a teammate. Give Jalen 2 easy looks a game from a good point guard and he’s putting up over 25 in his sophomore year IMO. The kids gonna get buckets.

14

u/_s0lace_ Rockets Apr 01 '23

His shot selection isn’t even bad tho. Yeah he takes an ill advised shot every now and again (he’s a young 2 guard on a rebuilding team ffs) but all his looks are off of PnR pin downs, the rare C&S and drives to lane. He isn’t just jacking up shit every possession or with no action ran to get a look

2

u/AZRockets Rockets Apr 01 '23

He just needs space to yam it

43

u/Few_Mulberry5372 Rockets Apr 01 '23

If Duren started the Pistons probably win tbh. Cade/Ivey/Duren is gonna be a nasty trio

19

u/Unique-Warning7798 Warriors Apr 01 '23

Idk why Wiseman is often playing more minutes than him and starting over him right now. Makes no sense. Ivey is at his best with Duren as the screener, something Wiseman can't do. And James Wiseman is at his best when he's playing as a scorer off the bench, something he can't really do in the starting lineup.

12

u/ZookeepergameGlum427 Apr 01 '23

They're tanking and Wiseman needs the minutes more than Duren.

4

u/allmykangbaekhomies Magic Apr 01 '23

Don’t watch a lot of Pistons ball but it seems like Duren’s presence kinda just made Bagley mostly redundant

13

u/erwillsun Pistons Apr 01 '23

Bagley’s defense makes him mostly redundant

0

u/_s0lace_ Rockets Apr 01 '23

Ivey has some good vision but that shot needs some work. Dude was chucking in the 4th too.

6

u/Slight_Dragonfruit69 Pistons Apr 01 '23

Make no mistake, that is a rare occurrence. I think KPJ got in his head a little near the end of the first half. Ivey is usually just inefficient rather than a chucker. Or he's really efficient and seems like a vet. This is honestly a strange game from him scoring wise, and refs didn't help with him having 0 fts.

1

u/Dazegobye Apr 01 '23

Where does Victor slide in at?

2

u/kbj17 Apr 01 '23

The 4. Best lineup would probably be Cade, Ivey, Bojan, Vic, Duren.

10

u/PenguinPrince1 Heat Bandwagon Apr 01 '23

Don’t bottom 3 seeds have exact same lottery odds

23

u/durtymrclean Pistons Apr 01 '23

Worst record guaranteed top 5 pick.

6

u/PenguinPrince1 Heat Bandwagon Apr 01 '23

Yep you’re right. Here’s a nice table of the odds

2

u/KryptoNike007 San Diego Rockets Apr 01 '23

This draft is pretty interchangeable from 4-7 tho

7

u/Marrouge Pistons Apr 01 '23

Bottom 3 teams have the same odds at #1 but the worst team can only fall to 5th in the worst case scenario while the third worst team can fall to seventh

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u/Dazegobye Apr 01 '23

Doesn't matter when we are in a sweepstakes year like this. Everybody 2-7 loses equally.

3

u/Marrouge Pistons Apr 01 '23

Let's just say I'd rather have Scoot, Brandon Miller, and either of the Thompson Twins instead of having to settle for Jarace Walker or Gradey Dick

1

u/Dazegobye Apr 01 '23

For sure but nothing feels like a win unless it's vic this year. Theres going to be disappointment for every fanbase that tanked this year that doesn't get the 1 pick on lottery night

1

u/Marrouge Pistons Apr 01 '23

I mean it's a 14% chance so being too optimistic is just gonna lead to disappointment more times than not, having an all or nothing mindset when it comes to getting the #1 overall pick is unhealthy

Even though the Pistons have an 86% chance of not getting Wemby, I still feel confident in their future since they'll have a healthy Cade next season in addition to what is hopefully a top 5 pick alongside Ivey and Duren

I mean yeah it'll be disappointing if they lost 60 games just to get the 5th overall pick but at the end of the day I think the Pistons already have their #1 alpha in Cade so losing out on Wemby wouldn't sting as much for me as it would if I was a Spurs or Rockets fan

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u/Extremeaty Pistons Apr 01 '23

Get Wemby a pair of white sticks, a Dodge Hellcat and a coney dog

1

u/chadbrutalism Pistons Apr 01 '23

scatpack**

8

u/JoJonesy Celtics Apr 01 '23

YES

now we just need the Spurs to lose out

5

u/hot-sauce-950 Warriors Apr 01 '23

Spurs gonna win

Warriors trash rn

1

u/JoJonesy Celtics Apr 01 '23

i just checked the score, you've gotta be kidding me lmao

2

u/hot-sauce-950 Warriors Apr 01 '23

I mean we pulled back but horrific start

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

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u/hot-sauce-950 Warriors Apr 01 '23

I’m confused. Why?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

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u/hot-sauce-950 Warriors Apr 01 '23

I mean your lottery odds not gonna change even if you win or lose lol

Also Spurs getting Wemby is the one team I’m completely ok with

1

u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23

same

1

u/JoJonesy Celtics Apr 01 '23

Aren't y'all guaranteed top 3 lottery odds already

1

u/iro3 Spurs Apr 01 '23

i get scared easily so i want more :)

5

u/Dont_Eat_Apples Rockets Apr 01 '23

WINNER GETS WEMBY

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u/bradrthtyj Spurs Apr 01 '23

Bogdanovic dragging this dog shit roster 15 wins is damn impressive, ofc Detroit knew what they were doing preemptively shutting him down but I’m sure it turned out way better than even they expected

5

u/BayoBeat Apr 01 '23

YOUR HOUSTON ROCKETS ARE 19-0 IN GAMES THEY SCORE MORE THAN THEIR OPPONENTS

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u/Jaerba [DET] Grant Hill Apr 01 '23

Way to win, losers.

3

u/obi-wan-ginobli-93 San Francisco Warriors Apr 01 '23

Has Duren been more impactful than wiseman lately? Haven’t watched piston games and don’t wanna base everything on the box score

9

u/jrzalman Pistons Apr 01 '23

Duren has been better than Wiseman every game. Duren is much better at basketball than Wiseman.

12

u/johnfcknallen [NBA] Hakeem Olajuwon Apr 01 '23

Watching killian hayes and jabari smith hurts my soul bro

23

u/Few_Mulberry5372 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Jabari has been pretty good lately. Tough night for him

5

u/browndude10 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Jabari just had his 3rd straight double double

1

u/EveningLength8 Rockets Apr 01 '23

Jabari has been good lately, just an off night for him

2

u/superfiery East Apr 01 '23

Tanky for Wemby

2

u/Cul_what Lakers Apr 01 '23

They out here playing World of Tanks irl lmao

2

u/Ifinishfast42 Apr 01 '23

Op should’ve made the title a modern day reenactment of the Battle of Kursk

1

u/hansislegend Lakers Apr 01 '23

Kursk Hinrich

2

u/pfthr0w Spurs Apr 01 '23

I dont know who I wanted to win more.

2

u/odaschox Lakers Apr 01 '23

Jalen Green looks like the embodiment of the sentence "the average player today would be a star in the 80s and 90s" for some reason i can't pinpoint

2

u/WallStreetDoesntBet Apr 01 '23

The Battle for the #1 Pick 😂

1

u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash Apr 01 '23

Outtanked

0

u/_s0lace_ Rockets Apr 01 '23

u/TheRed_Knight

Your boy wiseman got abused by Sengun tonight. That “defensive impact” couldn’t stop the Turkish Tornado. Eat crow.

0

u/beenebk_ Apr 01 '23

They having a mid off over there

6

u/MarkusMillions Pistons Apr 01 '23

These teams are muuuuuuuch worse than mid

1

u/BayoBeat Apr 01 '23

We may never lose again

1

u/Izrezar Lakers Apr 01 '23

KPJ so good man

1

u/IamNOBODY1973 Apr 01 '23

Imagine a game where both teams are intent on losing. They will be taking shots at their opponents baskets while defending their own.