r/nottheonion 13d ago Take My Energy 1

Iran condemns France’s brutal suppression of rallies over pension reform

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/482847/Iran-condemns-France-s-brutal-suppression-of-rallies-over-pension
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u/rip1980 13d ago

We need a word that means more ironic than ironic.

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u/dnoj 13d ago Silver Gold All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Starstruck Masterpiece

Iranic.

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u/SpecialpOps 13d ago edited 13d ago

I am tired of this circus-like farce he keeps endorsing.

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u/pvolovich 13d ago

Subtle, but so good…

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u/HaikuBotStalksMe 13d ago

Ignore the downvotes. I get the joke.

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u/SpecialpOps 13d ago

If I could reach just one person… Thank you so much!

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u/ramblinroger 13d ago

Cute. Are we far enough into child comments for you to be able to explain it to me without spoiling it for others? (:

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u/SpecialpOps 13d ago

In Iran, they speak/write Farsi. My joke is that the government in Iran is a hypocritical circus, or perhaps a farce.

I was able to use the words “farce” and “he” to not only convey my sentiment about these guys but to make a funny (at least to me) pun.

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u/ramblinroger 12d ago

Thx! Didn't know

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u/SpecialpOps 12d ago edited 12d ago

👌🏼making the Internet kinder one post at a time.

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u/Capraos 12d ago

Smarter too.

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u/corsicanguppy 12d ago

Thanks to your comment, I went back and got the joke too. He gets the score, but you definitely get the assist.

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u/Powerful-Homework230 13d ago

Self-supporting has the greatest capacity to act. And I support these hard words.

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u/GlobalWarminIsComing 13d ago

Is this a reference to farsi?

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u/SpecialpOps 13d ago

Yes. To go along with the “Iranic” pun.

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u/Coffeeninja1603 12d ago

You just earned a nose snort. That’s very high praise in some circles.

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u/EmperorThan 13d ago

In my head I just read that as "Ironic" but with a thick Boston accent.

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u/docandersonn 13d ago

I read it in a thick Minnesotan accent. That Midwestern vowel shift that really grates on one's ears.

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u/doomed87 13d ago

Bag.

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u/belisaurius42 12d ago

You got to spell it right. bAAYg.

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u/theSilentCrime 13d ago

Iranis Morrisette

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u/jwill602 13d ago

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u/Major_R_Soul 13d ago

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u/ElMadera 13d ago

…IT’S LIKE IRAAAAEEEEAAAAN

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u/SomethingClever427 13d ago

On your arranged wedding day!

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u/Sin2Win_Got_Me_In 13d ago

It's a child briiiiide to a man three times her age!

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u/imapieceofshitk 13d ago

It's the moral criiiime that you blame on faith!

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u/CrispyBacon_87 13d ago

And who would've thought, hijabs matter.

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u/Astroglaid92 13d ago

Wise words from the Hadith of Al’Anis Morrissettashzadeh.

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u/Beautiful_Welcome_33 12d ago

This thread has me dead. Lol

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u/Dragon_yum 13d ago

Moronic

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u/Bluffwatcher 13d ago

Morironic

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u/DeanPalton 13d ago

How about a morisette?

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u/OGCelaris 13d ago

I never did understand that song. It is either very meta or she just had no clue what irony is.

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u/CrispyBacon_87 13d ago

Maybe that is the irony of it.

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u/Drayner89 12d ago

I believe that when asked, her response is basically, "I wrote that song when I was 18..." So I presume it's the latter.

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u/NickolaosTheGreek 13d ago

Feronic? The Fe gives more iron to the irony.

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u/throbbingliberal 13d ago Snek

The Irany is killing me…

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u/Remus88Romulus 13d ago

How Iranic.

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u/SwayzeOfArabia 13d ago

Ayatoldyah this would be funny

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

I find it funny how such a Tehran-ical theocracy would come out in support of the Persia-cuted French proletariat. Maybe they have some sort of Ayatol-erior motives, but we Shah-ll see.

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u/amboandy 13d ago

Save some puns for the rest of us please

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

Sorry, my wife put an embargo on my pun usage, so I've been forced to peddle my wares on the open market. I hope Shia-ll cave Sunni or later.

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u/NouveauJacques 13d ago

Jihad me in stitches

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

She just can't handle it happening Allah the time.

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u/DeadPoster 13d ago

Stop it, I'm Rushdie-ing here!

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u/PsychologicalGain298 13d ago

Iran just mad because the Persia-cution didn't end with a senseless killing.

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

Those Muslims certainly felt he was a bit of a fatwa-t.

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u/HokiArt 13d ago

Tell her to stop being so syria-s all the time.

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

I keep trying and thinking maybe she'll love me for the way I am. Personally, I think it's a bit Mesopotamia-d up that I can't be Assyria-tive enough to stand up for myself.

Assad :'(

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u/PreviouslyOnBible 13d ago

This humor islame.

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u/inferiorcritic 13d ago

Why did you have Tabriz through all the puns?! Guess we can Kish this pun thread goodbye.

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u/216horrorworks 13d ago

I'm going to throw Iraq at somebody if the puns continue.

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u/HokiArt 13d ago

Exactly, this is a syria-s issue. And they're making puns.

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u/jamesbeil 13d ago

Shah-ly there can't be many more?

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u/OneHundredEighty180 13d ago

A Reza-nable person would've stopped by now, but I just can't stop doing what I Pahlavi.

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u/LouSputhole94 13d ago

Oil allow it

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u/abonifay 13d ago

Iran out of puns too

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u/SylvieJay 13d ago

Crazy naked man without pants yells a guy to put a hat on 🙄

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u/rockstang 13d ago

Stop! It's already dead!

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u/Bromium_Ion 13d ago

I don’t know who’s worse, the people who post the joke but worse comments or the people who upvote them.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 13d ago

With the rise of AI comments, every now and then I'll see a comment that is utter nonsense. Complete gibberish. And it'll have like 20 upvotes.

Therefore, I'm convinced that either the upvotes are made up or they mostly from bots.

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u/redline489 13d ago

You literally just repeated his joke.

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u/apairofparrots 13d ago

Thanks, Ayatollah Morissette.

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u/muzzafuzza908 13d ago

Iran to the comments to see who would make a joke

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u/3412points 13d ago Silver All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy Starry Eureka!

When Iran makes statements like this they know it is hypocritical and ironic, they are under no illusions that they brutally crack down on internal protests.

What they are trying to do is point out the hypocrisy in nations who condemn them for something who also do it themselves, just like Iran is doing in this statement.

It doesn't really land here because what France is doing is nowhere near as bad. But the intent is to point out the irony in Western nations who condemn others for something they themselves do, the irony in this statement is the point.

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u/yuje 13d ago

Yeah, this is it exactly. Iran doesn’t care about French protesters, they just want to make their opponents seem hypocritical. If countries are shown to condemn crackdowns (or other human rights issues) in rival countries but tolerate them in friendly ones, then it also helps discredit their accusations because it makes them appear not to care based on principles and moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries.

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u/flyingkiwi46 13d ago

Well after the recent peace deal between saudi and Iran that was brokered by China

Within few days there is already a cosponsored bill by both democrats & Republicans in US congress that is looking to "investigate " Saudi Arabia for it human rights violations lol

Unfortunately its pretty hard for people to take these violations seriously when they're used as threats or consequences by western governments against other countries that dont follow western instructions

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u/Yoona1987 13d ago

Well after the recent peace deal between saudi and Iran that was brokered by China

I’ve completely lost this, when did this happen? Cause that’s quite a big deal no?

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u/yuje 12d ago

It was really big news, but on the day that it happened, it was pretty suppressed on Reddit’s news feed. The biggest China-related story that day were recycled stories about Biden’s chip war. Media manipulation is real, and the US military runs targeted influence campaigns on social media just like Reddit loves to joke about enemies of doing.

In case you think it only happens on social media, here’s an example of the BBC doing its best to avoid doing any mention of China in relation to the Iran-Saudi peace deal: https://youtu.be/fND-Fgs_Vpw

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u/Pancakez_117 12d ago

Finally someone calling this shit out

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u/XimbalaHu3 12d ago

It's a deal that was made over the last 2 years according to the chinese and was signed yesterday.

Basically, another step in the new chinese silk road, China is the biggest Petrol consumer and both the saudis and iranians are BIG producers with the added fact of iran being a really big market in every conceivable metric just on the chinese doorstep.

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u/SplitPerspective 13d ago

It’s almost like you only get to be shown “China bad” narratives in western media, or it’s emphasized more, and all the good stuff is like a footnote. But there’s no propaganda in the west right?

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u/mokhandes 12d ago

China is bad indeed. China do not care about human rights or protestors of Iran. But western countries do not care about us either. They just use us as a pawn for their goals too.

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u/joe1240132 13d ago

Their opponents are hypocritical though? Also

not to care based on principles and moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries.

That's literally true. The US has been selling tons of arms to Saudi Arabia to carry out genocide in Yemen while decrying supposed genocide by Russia in Ukraine for instance. They talk about how autocratic hostile regimes are, while in France we just saw a policy forced through against both the will of the people AND parts of the legislature.

Like people love trying to point out how hypocritical Iran or other nations who point out similar inconsistencies are rather than pointing out how it would be incredibly easy to avoid those accusations in the first place by countries cleaning up their own shit. What's been happening in Iran is terrible, and it should be called out. But we shouldn't give France a pass just because they're on "our side" or whatever-what they're doing is also shitty.

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u/Mehhish 13d ago

But we shouldn't give France a pass just because they're on "our side"

But I'm rooting for the protesters, lol.

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u/EmpRupus 13d ago edited 12d ago

Agree. False equivalency.

"So you guys support French government, you hate only on Iran. That's hypocritical."

So many threads on Reddit about French protests - I haven't seen any mainstream support for the French government.

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u/smellmybuttfoo 12d ago

I actually have seen support for the French government in a few of the threads. Mostly saying things like "the retirement age needs to increase due to life expectancy increasing, along with the economic issues recently, as well as French workers having the lowest retirement age, and with the most time off from work". I'm not saying I believe those things, but apparently it's out there.

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u/green_dragon527 12d ago

Yup I have seen people saying France already taxes the rich too much, crazy to hear on Reddit!

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u/Dynahazzar 12d ago

Don't worry we're not about to give them a pass even when they are *us*.

Source : I'm French

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u/joe1240132 12d ago

I have full confidence in the French people making their feelings known.

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u/Law_Equivalent 13d ago

It's not hypocrisy, France condemned Iran not for cracking down on protestors but for doing it brutally and leaving hundreds dead.

Just like if the US cracked down on protestors and beat them up, France wouldn't say anything because that's normal operating procedures in this day and age and what is deemed acceptable in the current world order.

But if the US started killed hundreds of protestors and raping them systematically than France would say something. Because that is not acceptable behavior in the current world order.

Here's an article where France condemned the Iran protests, let's see what they specifically said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rfi.fr/en/france/20221129-french-parliament-vote-condemns-crackdown-on-iranian-protests-backs-women-s-rights

"The resolution voted late Monday and welcomed by all political groups, condemns in the "strongest terms the brutal and widespread repression" against "non-violent demonstrators".

It denounces the "use of torture" and affirms its "support for the Iranian people in their aspirations for democracy and respect for their fundamental rights and freedoms".

condemning, in particular, the restriction of women's freedoms and rights."

So France condemns use of torture, restrictions of women's freedoms and rights, and brutal crackdown,

Torture, & restrictions on women's rights and freedoms are both things we can say is commonly accepted to not happen in France on a systematic level.

Brutal crackdown is subjective so we have to draw the line somewhere that an average country would agree is the difference between a non brutal crackdown and not. Otherwise you're just going to say that every crackdown is brutal and at that point we will need a replacement word for brutal to actually quickly distinguish in a sentence the difference between something that results in some tear gas getting thrown & dozens of people gettimg arrested versus something that results in live ammunition being fired & hundreds of people getting shot, and sentenced to death.

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u/provocative_bear 13d ago

It’s also apples and oranges to anyone with half a brain though. France has broken up a protest or two, but Iran has killed about a thousand people in their crackdowns and sentenced people to death for speaking out. To describe France as brutal is a joke when Iran is unapologetically orders and orders of magnitude worse.

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u/harlysparks 12d ago

Its not really apples to oranges though. Thats simply different levels of crackdown.

But we have protests to begin with because of authoritarian means of passing unpopular legislation in the first place - no different than Iran.

And the bigger picture is simply one country that gets demonized by western media pointing out the hypocrisy. France here is a mild case. But Russia-Ukraine is a direct analog to US-Iraq, yet we saw no western boycott of American athletes in 2004 Olympics (for example) or sanctions targeted at American oligarchs engaged in war profiteering.

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u/provocative_bear 12d ago

I’ll agree that the invasion of Iraq was a senseless crime that is not so far removed from Russia’s invasion. If Putin brought up America’s invasion of Iraq, he’d still be a hypocrite but it would be a more fair comparison.

As for the French government’s move... yes it clearly goes against the popular will, but they live in a democracy, and there’s going to be hell to pay for the politicians that voted to push back the retirement age. Meanwhile, the Ayatollah will never see accountability for any of this.

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u/Yalkim 13d ago edited 13d ago

Well you twisted it a little to fit your own narrative. Here let me fix a couple of things:

Iran doesn’t care about French protesters, they just want to make their opponents seem hypocritical

…they just want to point out the hypocrisy in their opponents.

If countries are shown to condemn crackdowns (or other human rights issues) in rival countries but tolerate them in friendly ones, then it also helps discredit their accusations because it makes them appear not to care based on principles and moral standards, but based on a cynical desire to weaponize human rights accusations against rival countries

…because it shows that they don’t care based on principles

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u/zedzag 13d ago

Dang I didn't realize the subtle way it was being presented till you corrected it.

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u/TheEarlOfCamden 13d ago

Yes because France’s treatment of protestors is totally comparable to Iran’s.

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u/otterspam 13d ago

Iran is doing this entirely to feed their propaganda machine and delegitimize legitimate accusations of human rights abuses.

The conflation of the French protests with the Iranian ones is exactly what they're hoping to accomplish and, with this comment, you bought it hook line and sinker.

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u/MyDictainabox 13d ago

Tell me with a straight face the two are moral equivalents. If not, France is ok to say, "Hey Iran, maybe not butcher your own citizens!"

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u/bigpinkbuttplug 13d ago

Their opponents are hypocrites so making them seem that way is easy.

Thing is I have more than enough room in my heart to hate the governments of Iran and France, of the US and Russia, of China and India and Pakistan... I can't stand people who out of a rightful hate for American war mongering start supporting Putin, they need to learn how to increase their capacity to hate.

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u/Zzzaxx 13d ago

Just to clarify...

It's not Iran skewing reality with their rhetoric.

They want to highlight the blatant hypocrisy that actually exists

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u/fang_xianfu 13d ago

It doesn't really help that news organisations use "rally", "protest", "demonstration", "march" and "riot" to describe exactly the same situation. And in France with the way the law works technically this is a strike, too.

So on the one hand if there's a massive peaceful protest in Iran or a demonstration in France where they're setting fire to cars, wrecking shops and fighting with police (these are just examples, not talking about any specific event), those are described using the exact same language which leaves people pretty confused.

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u/MistaRed 13d ago

Iirc there is in fact also a strike ongoing in France (specifically the garbage collectors, or am I mixing this up with the last time garbage collectors went on strike)

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u/Cahootie 13d ago

There's always a strike in France.

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u/OnceUponATie 13d ago

To be fair, there is always a strike going on somewhere in France, but you are correct, garbage collectors in Paris are currently on strike to protest recent retirement pension reforms.

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u/MistaRed 13d ago

Oh, thought I was mixing it up with the strike in Scotland.(which now that I check was back in 2022)

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u/EmpRupus 13d ago

It doesn't really help that news organisations use "rally", "protest", "demonstration", "march" and "riot" to describe exactly the same situation. And in France with the way the law works technically this is a strike, too.

Yeah, I think there was some news article about a gang/cartel "taking over Los Angeles" - and there were a lot of confused people from Latin America asking - "How can the US government allow a cartel to take over a city? Our government would immediately send military re-inforcements to take back the city."

And they had to be explained that "taking over a city" does not mean what it means there.

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u/WolverineSanders 13d ago

Frankly, while their intent is bad, I'm all for everyone calling out everyone's shit. The workers are the net winners.

The root of the problem is that many people in all nations believe in some sort nationalist or supremacist ideology, and then they imbibe and use these kinds of political statements to justify their superiority, not to demand better treatment for all

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u/t_hab 13d ago

Unfortunately the workers do not win when Iran does this. Iran’s intent is to legitimize aggression against protestors. Their false equivalence may not work on you but there are people on the political extremes to hear it and say “good for you, Iran, point out the hypocrisy. Nobody cares about human rights unless they are trying to control leaders they don’t like.” Those people are actively vying for power around the world, including France, and don’t believe for a second that workers of France will be better off with somebody like Le Pen in power.

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u/I_Know_Your_Hands 13d ago

The only net winners are boomers. Younger generations are getting fucked.

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u/Coolguy123456789012 13d ago

What brutal crackdown happened in France exactly, though? The whole messaging is bullshit. Brutal isn't what happened.

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u/SortitionUtopia 13d ago

Just yesterday i saw a woman get beat by a CRS for having tear gas protection. You can check mediapart (investigative media) or just french twitter, it's all over the place. Repression is the only thing Macron knows when it comes to enforcing his neoliberal, American style reforms. Not calling it brutal is an insult to the french people protesting (including me).

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u/ThatTallAwkwardGuy 13d ago

Macron once had his plot to build a private intelligence agency headed by his personal bodyguard exposed cause said bodyguard tried to beat a protestor to death.

France has a long history of using groups like pied noirs to do dirty work (ala MI6 UVF employment). They would purge dangerous OAS like elements out of the army and intelligence agencies if they weren't useful. This is historical fact that is disregarded as conspiracy by people who don't do reading

There's also the fact that France has been as brutal as Iran in west Africa for a while.

Sorry but you don't know history and just trying to avoiding learning to preserve a comfortable worldview.

It's this, and I'm sorry to say this honestly, racism in the west that our countries are better than others cause our media frames it that way when pretty much all western countries have been some of the most brutal and profane geopolitical actors for the last hundred years and our media has lied constantly with zero reckoning with that.

I've heard more in my country about Iranians arrested in Iran than MI5 knowingly letting our Manchester arena get bombed by one of their assets. The news, especially state or pseudo state media like the bbc guardian, NYT and wapo, is not history and search engines on the Internet have gotten markedly worse at conflating the two over the years which is why most western people are shockingly undereducated about the world. I'm including liberals and conservatives in that cause my god the amount of times I've had to politely teach them basics after they passionately rhyme off crackpot realism is honestly insane

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u/Revydown 12d ago

The news, especially state or pseudo state media like the bbc guardian, NYT and wapo, is not history and search engines on the Internet have gotten markedly worse at conflating the two over the years which is why most western people are shockingly undereducated about the world.

Yeah I had a hard time searching for information on when the US launched missiles into Iraq when the US invaded Iraq. Alot of the links were about Iran. I might be miss remembering but I could have sworn the US launched missle strikes into Iraq's cities. Which is ironic because everyone loves to pile up against Russia for doing the same thing with Ukraine. I guess the US just gets free passes.

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u/UberWidget 13d ago

Exactly, France isn’t going to execute someone for participating in the protests unlike in Iran.

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u/SortitionUtopia 13d ago

French people have lost hands and eyes protesting those undemocratic reforms. But Iran being worse somehow makes it ok? Please support our working class.

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u/joe1240132 13d ago

But those people are hurting property! What's a few eyes or limbs when those pesky rapscallions are hurting property, the thing that really matters?

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u/doomed87 13d ago

Would someone please think of the inanimate objects here?!

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u/Coolguy123456789012 13d ago

It has nothing to do with that. I have been at brutal protest suppressions. At DAPL the police used sound weapons and killed people with their less than lethal munitions. The French police here are addressing the safety concern of these protestors starting fires. I've been in protests in France, they're civil. Nothing I've seen makes this look brutal to me. Have people at this protest lost eyes and limbs? Please show me that information.

Protesting is a pretty valued aspect of French life. I have had many interactions at protests in France with the police and they have been nothing but civil unless someone is throwing molotovs or pavés at the flics. Please link any evidence that the police response has been brutal. I haven't seen any. 61 arrests, no injuries, no deaths.

What part of extending the retirement age in an aging country has to do with the working class? This shit is a middle class issue built on the backs of the working poor who will never retire, the whole thing is false flag bullshit. Support your own working class and learn wtf you are talking about. Your ignorance hurts the project.

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u/soonerfreak 13d ago

But America did and it looks like the cops who executed the protestor at cop city might get away with it.

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u/Guybrush_Creepwood_ 13d ago

Judging by how their police/government act when France hosts international events, there's probably quite a lot of brutality tbh. Just not on the level of blatant cold-blooded murder like Iran.

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u/t_hab 13d ago

And it’s not even just to point it out. They are deliberately trying to create a false equivalence. People on the political extremes fall for these false equivalences and then horrific regimes like Iran’s can point to the discourse that they help create.

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u/joe1240132 13d ago

Good thing we have the enlightened centrist to let everyone know in the west that actually, it's ok when the government does things without popular support (or even support of their own legislative bodies) and that it's fine for the police to brutalize protesters, as long as they don't use live ammunition!

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u/newgeezas 13d ago

the irony in this statement is the point.

Just a minor correction - the hypocrisy is the point. Irony, almost by definition, can't be the point. Irony is when an outcome is opposite of the intention, in a specific way.

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u/aebulbul 13d ago

I like how you downplay the severity. It’s relative. You have a highly repressive regime that’s going to do repressive things, and you have what you would expect to be a beacon of democracy. Marcon, and his cronies are not at all behaving like one.

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u/DevilDog-Titan007 13d ago

Iran's talkin' 'bout suppression?? Yeah, right.

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u/speculatrix 13d ago

Seems like they're the experts and would know best.

"Hey, Frenchies, I see you're oppressing your people, don't do that! You've got so much to learn from us, and do it like this"

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u/DevilDog-Titan007 13d ago

LOL 😆...Spot on.

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u/AnybodyMassive1610 13d ago

IRAN: You are oppressing your protestors - very sad…

IRAN: …you can’t just let those rioters live to talk about their protests.

Seems they aren’t saying that last part out loud.

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u/lonigus 13d ago

This is a weird timeline we live in.

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u/Johannes_Keppler 13d ago

The "No you!" political trope is as old as civilization. Same stuff, different moment in time.

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u/explodingpineapple64 13d ago

I know right what kind of hellish nexus event brought us here

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u/Milkslinger 13d ago

nexus event

T H E I N T E R N E T

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u/metalconscript 13d ago

Underrated comment the double-edged sword of the internet is just about hilt deep.

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u/jrhoffa 13d ago

David Bowie's death

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u/[deleted] 13d ago edited 4d ago

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u/Jugales 13d ago

r/funnyandsad

Iran like, "We stand with 49.3% of the protesters. The other 50.7% should cover their heads."

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u/NikoKida 13d ago

Pot, meet kettle

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u/si3rra_7 13d ago

Who's gonna complain next? Putin?

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u/hart37 13d ago

I mean if anyone's going to be an expert about suppression of rallies it's Iran

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u/zergling424 13d ago

looks at subreddit name ah yes this tracks

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u/BrokenInternets 13d ago

The world is a giant onion now.

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u/Decitriction 13d ago

Iran is just trolling at this point.

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u/vladgrinch 13d ago

Iran is making really bad jokes.

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u/eg_taco 13d ago

The value of “human rights” to a nation state largely stops at being a transactional tool to deflect/distract attention in the media.

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u/ilovecoffee1 13d ago

Yo…..the Persians are trolling 🤣

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u/BN---ORG 12d ago

They're occupiers not Persians

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u/DreamingIntoTheVoid 13d ago

Not even remotely comparable. I fully support the protesters in both countries but Irans crackdown involved executing protesters. Think about that. Iran sentenced a football player to death for thinking its okay for women to show their hair.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-15/iranian-footballer-handed-death-sentence-for-backing-women/101774262

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u/Ganja_goon_X 13d ago

Exactly. All the bad faith bots and morons saying "hurr hurr +1 for Iran!" Literally forgot they killed a woman for showing her hair and killed others for protesting that murder.

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u/BlowChunx 13d ago

Persians in support of Parisians…go figure

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u/brown_dude_69 13d ago

Totally iranic.

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u/StrikingDebate2 12d ago

This may seem ridiculous coming from Iran but here's some food for thought. This is what the US sounds like when this criticise other countries human rights records to people in Cuba or Bolivia.

Of course I am not here to make a west bad argument. Just pointing out that all countries are hypocrites. BTW not supporting Iran here or making a West bad, East good argument.

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u/RedactedPerpetually 12d ago

Or when Biden talks about ICC arrest warrant against Putin when previous US Presidents like Bush should’ve gotten the same treatment. Or the fact that US doesn’t recognise the ICC, like Russia.

And this is not whataboutery because I want both of them to be arrested and executed for war crimes.

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u/gepettow 13d ago

Hahahahahahaha they are trying so hard. Pathetic regime.

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u/Zanchbot 13d ago

Had to double check which sub I was on with a headline like that.

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u/Fornostios 12d ago

The irany...

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u/StormShadow009 12d ago

If what you're doing is to harsh for even Iran, then maybe you might be going too far?

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u/Haunting-Ad9521 13d ago

Because there’s no deaths?

Iran: “you call that brutal suppression?! Smh”

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u/klezart 13d ago

You can be right and still be a hypocritical asshole

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u/AStarkFan 13d ago

Hey, Pot. This is Kettle...

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u/anchorsteamer 13d ago

You don’t accept criticism from someone you wouldn’t ask advice of. That goes triple for Iran.

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u/spookinky987 13d ago

...because they're cool with killing women who don't want to wear a hijab...

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u/idontneedausername8 13d ago

Not to defend Macron's policies but who gives a fuck what Iran thinks about it.

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u/DopestDopeHead 13d ago

Kettle...something something....black

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u/barzbub 13d ago

It’s amazing how an oppressive regime can condemn another country for actions they suppress themselves! Iran is one of the most restrictive countries in the world!

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u/Smooth_Monkey69420 13d ago

I condemn Iran’s condemnation of France’s condemnation of it’s previous pension programs

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u/plaidverb 13d ago

This was not on my 2023 bingo card.

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u/EWSflash 12d ago

The pot calling the kettle black...

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u/stiegosaurus 12d ago

Regardless of what Iran thinks, people need to wake up to the govt's of our world taking away any right for us to push back on them. This is a huge problem, happens in Canada now in France.

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u/piedras69 12d ago

The nerve. So Iranic

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u/ApproximateOracle 12d ago

They can have an opinion on it when France captures and executes 15000 of the protestors.

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u/mia_elora 12d ago

Someone in Iran literally has to have the job to comb through Current Events news to look for things like this for PR purposes.

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u/BhamBlazer615 12d ago

Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha WAA Haha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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u/W4rlord185 12d ago

This just in "Pot calls Kettle black"

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u/LCHMD 12d ago

Comedians.

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u/Mikethebest78 12d ago

Yes let us look to that great bastion of human rights Iran for instructions on how to behave.

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u/Boringhusky 12d ago

Anyone who notes the hypocrisy here is using "whataboutism" according to reddit.

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u/Abraxas_1134 12d ago

Iran condemning protest suppression. Did I wake up in an alternate timeline?

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u/Baron_Karza77 12d ago

Iran? The regime that murders women for not wearing the Hijab and wants mass executions for all protestor's?

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u/98765432188 12d ago

Go home Iran, your drunk.

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u/raging_pastafarian 13d ago

I'm sorry, brutal suppression in France? Really?

I mean, I know they're protesting the retirement age thing, but has France MURDERED anyone over it?

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u/MrEvilNES 12d ago

They've been beating up, tear gassing, maiming people (people have lost eyes from rubber bullets, and hands from trying to pick up tear gas pellets), sexually assaulting female protesters (by doing extensive body searches which included the inside of their underwear)...
I haven't heard of people getting killed during those protests, but in recent years we've had an old lady get hit by a tear gas pellet on her 4th floor balcony and die, a guy who drowned after police charged at protesters next to a river, a guy who died when a grenade got caught between his backpack and his neck, a guy who got choked to death during a traffic control...
Of course France is nowhere near as brutal as Iran, but it's not all sunshine and rainbows here either. Cops are scum everywhere.

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u/Hamzanovic 13d ago

Good for them. All nation states deserve to be a little hypocritical in their comments about other countries, as a treat. If the west can do it, Iran might as well lol

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u/Pectacular22 13d ago

This goes both ways.

  • Sure Iran is being blindly ironic because they obviously supress (and worse) rioters.

  • However, on the other hand France would condemn Irans suppression with one hand, while fisting theirs with the others.

If you want to throw stones at Irans irony, do so with France as well.

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u/rivatia 13d ago

You are the perfect example on why they release these statements, to catch idiots and make 'em think, yea Iran got a point here.

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u/gagcar 13d ago

Oh yeah, they’re totally the same scenario if you look into none of the detail.

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u/pinkheartpiper 13d ago

People of France rioting over a 2-year increase in retirement age, no casualties. People of Iran rising against the dictator after a girl died in custody for the crime of letting her hair out, 500 protestors killed.

This fucking guy: BoTh SiDeS!!!1!!!

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u/Disastrous_Taro9515 13d ago

As in.. not brutal enough?

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u/Polar_Vortx 13d ago

No, bad Iran. No whataboutism.

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u/ThorinPFK 13d ago

100% agree. They're just taking a page from Russia's playbook. And such an obvious and weak attempt at it, too.

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u/Cheeseknife07 13d ago

When you are literally iran

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u/sugar_addict002 13d ago

now that's rich

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u/shockingdevelopment 13d ago

I mean... Americans here laugh at this hypocrisy, but they think they're in a place to talk about criminal invasions. If you point that out, suddenly you've committed the sin of "whataboutism".

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u/eaglescout1984 13d ago

Iran just trying to look out for the rights of the French "people".

And by people they mean the men, women aren't people in Iran.

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u/laz10 13d ago

How come only Iran is a hypocrite?

As always western countries can't be hypocrites because they do no wrong

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u/Patient_Education991 13d ago

If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black...

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u/robhol 13d ago

They really are just knee-jerk spamming the Denounce option, aren't they.

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u/FriedEgggsCorpse 13d ago

What a bad joke. Iran damning anyone.

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u/usesbitterbutter 13d ago

I assume their condemnation was all about how France was going about it, rather than a critique of the idea itself.

NO NO NO! You must use acid and real bullets! Using tear gas and batons is for losers!

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u/lamabaronvonawesome 13d ago

WTF? Ohhhh cause not invisible sky king related!

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u/nicelium 13d ago

lol at iran